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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan Van De Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] mm: alloc/free depth based PCP high auto-tuning
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2023 13:19:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZK060sMG0GfC5gUS@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230710065325.290366-3-ying.huang@intel.com>

On Mon 10-07-23 14:53:25, Huang Ying wrote:
> To auto-tune PCP high for each CPU automatically, an
> allocation/freeing depth based PCP high auto-tuning algorithm is
> implemented in this patch.
> 
> The basic idea behind the algorithm is to detect the repetitive
> allocation and freeing pattern with short enough period (about 1
> second).  The period needs to be short to respond to allocation and
> freeing pattern changes quickly and control the memory wasted by
> unnecessary caching.

1s is an ethernity from the allocation POV. Is a time based sampling
really a good choice? I would have expected a natural allocation/freeing
feedback mechanism. I.e. double the batch size when the batch is
consumed and it requires to be refilled and shrink it under memory
pressure (GFP_NOWAIT allocation fails) or when the surplus grows too
high over batch (e.g. twice as much).  Have you considered something as
simple as that?
Quite honestly I am not sure time based approach is a good choice
because memory consumptions tends to be quite bulky (e.g. application
starts or workload transitions based on requests).
 
> To detect the repetitive allocation and freeing pattern, the
> alloc/free depth is calculated for each tuning period (1 second) on
> each CPU.  To calculate the alloc/free depth, we track the alloc
> count.  Which increases for page allocation from PCP and decreases for
> page freeing to PCP.  The alloc depth is the maximum alloc count
> difference between the later large value and former small value.
> While, the free depth is the maximum alloc count difference between
> the former large value and the later small value.
> 
> Then, the average alloc/free depth in multiple tuning periods is
> calculated, with the old alloc/free depth decay in the average
> gradually.
> 
> Finally, the PCP high is set to be the smaller value of average alloc
> depth and average free depth, after clamped between the default and
> the max PCP high.  In this way, pure allocation or freeing will not
> enlarge the PCP high because PCP doesn't help.
> 
> We have tested the algorithm with several workloads on Intel's
> 2-socket server machines.

How does this scheme deal with memory pressure?

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-11 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-10  6:53 [RFC 0/2] mm: " Huang Ying
2023-07-10  6:53 ` [RFC 1/2] mm: add framework for " Huang Ying
2023-07-11 11:07   ` Michal Hocko
2023-07-12  7:45     ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-14  8:59       ` Michal Hocko
2023-07-17  8:19         ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-10  6:53 ` [RFC 2/2] mm: alloc/free depth based " Huang Ying
2023-07-11 11:19   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2023-07-12  9:05     ` Mel Gorman
2023-07-13  8:56       ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-14 14:07         ` Mel Gorman
2023-07-17  9:16           ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-17 13:50             ` Mel Gorman
2023-07-18  0:55               ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-18 12:34                 ` Mel Gorman
2023-07-19  5:59                   ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-19  9:05                     ` Mel Gorman
2023-07-21  7:28                       ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-21  9:21                         ` Mel Gorman
2023-07-24  1:09                           ` Huang, Ying
2023-07-14 11:41       ` Michal Hocko
2023-07-13  8:11     ` Huang, Ying

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