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From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Hyeonggon Yoo <42.hyeyoo@gmail.com>
Cc: "Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)" <urezki@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Liam R . Howlett" <Liam.Howlett@oracle.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Oleksiy Avramchenko <oleksiy.avramchenko@sony.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Mitigate a vmap lock contention
Date: Tue, 23 May 2023 17:12:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZGzX3vRMlGHIcYCe@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZGyqiaRnMJPFhxR6@debian-BULLSEYE-live-builder-AMD64>

On Tue, May 23, 2023 at 08:59:05PM +0900, Hyeonggon Yoo wrote:
> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 01:08:40PM +0200, Uladzislau Rezki (Sony) wrote:
> > Hello, folk.
> > 
> > 1. This is a followup of the vmap topic that was highlighted at the LSFMMBPF-2023
> > conference. This small serial attempts to mitigate the contention across the
> > vmap/vmalloc code. The problem is described here:
> > 
> 
> Hello Uladzislau, thank you for the work!
> 
> > wget ftp://vps418301.ovh.net/incoming/Fix_a_vmalloc_lock_contention_in_SMP_env_v2.pdf
> 
> I ran the exactly same command but couldn't download the file, did I
> miss something?
> 
wget ftp://vps418301.ovh.net/incoming/Mitigate_a_vmalloc_lock_contention_in_SMP_env_v2.pdf

Sorry, i renamed the file name :)

> $ wget ftp://vps418301.ovh.net/incoming/Fix_a_vmalloc_lock_contention_in_SMP_env_v2.pdf
> [...]
> ==> PASV ... done.    ==> RETR Fix_a_vmalloc_lock_contention_in_SMP_env_v2.pdf ... 
> No such file `Fix_a_vmalloc_lock_contention_in_SMP_env_v2.pdf'.
> 
> > The material is tagged as a v2 version. It contains extra slides about testing
> > the throughput, steps and comparison with a current approach.
> > 
> > 2. Motivation.
> > 
> > - The vmap code is not scalled to number of CPUs and this should be fixed;
> > - XFS folk has complained several times that vmalloc might be contented on
> >   their workloads:
> > 
> > <snip>
> > commit 8dc9384b7d75012856b02ff44c37566a55fc2abf
> > Author: Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>
> > Date:   Tue Jan 4 17:22:18 2022 -0800
> > 
> >     xfs: reduce kvmalloc overhead for CIL shadow buffers
> >     
> >     Oh, let me count the ways that the kvmalloc API sucks dog eggs.
> >     
> >     The problem is when we are logging lots of large objects, we hit
> >     kvmalloc really damn hard with costly order allocations, and
> >     behaviour utterly sucks:
> 
> based on the commit I guess xfs should use vmalloc/kvmalloc is because
> it allocates large buffers, how large could it be?
> 
They use kvmalloc(). When the page allocator is not able to serve a
request they fallback to vmalloc. At least what i see, the sizes are:

from 73728 up to 1048576, i.e. 18 pages up to 256 pages.

> > 3. Test
> > 
> > On my: AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3970X 32-Core Processor, i have below figures:
> > 
> >     1-page     1-page-this-patch
> > 1  0.576131   vs   0.555889
> > 2   2.68376   vs    1.07895
> > 3   4.26502   vs    1.01739
> > 4   6.04306   vs    1.28924
> > 5   8.04786   vs    1.57616
> > 6   9.38844   vs    1.78142
> 
> <snip>
> 
> > 29    20.06   vs    3.59869
> > 30  20.4353   vs     3.6991
> > 31  20.9082   vs    3.73028
> > 32  21.0865   vs    3.82904
> > 
> > 1..32 - is a number of jobs. The results are in usec and is a vmallco()/vfree()
> > pair throughput.
> 
> I would be more interested in real numbers than synthetic benchmarks,
> Maybe XFS folks could help performing profiling similar to commit 8dc9384b7d750
> with and without this patchset?
> 
I added Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> to this thread. But. The
contention exists. Apart of that per-cpu-KVA allocator can go away
if we make it generic instead.

> By the way looking at the commit, teaching __p?d_alloc() about gfp
> context (that I'm _slowly_ working on...) could be nice for allowing
> non-GFP_KERNEL kvmalloc allocations, as Matthew mentioned. [1]
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/Y%2FOHC33YLedMXTlD@casper.infradead.org
> 

Thanks!

--
Uladzisdlau Rezki


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-23 15:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-22 11:08 Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 1/9] mm: vmalloc: Add va_alloc() helper Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-23  6:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-23  9:57     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-27 19:55   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 2/9] mm: vmalloc: Rename adjust_va_to_fit_type() function Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-23  6:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-23 10:01     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-23 17:24   ` Liam R. Howlett
2023-05-24 11:51     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-27 21:50   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-29 20:37     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 3/9] mm: vmalloc: Move vmap_init_free_space() down in vmalloc.c Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-23  6:06   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-27 21:52   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 4/9] mm: vmalloc: Add a per-CPU-zone infrastructure Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-23  6:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-23 14:53     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-23 15:13       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-23 15:32         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 5/9] mm: vmalloc: Insert busy-VA per-cpu zone Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-23  6:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-23 15:00     ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 6/9] mm: vmalloc: Support multiple zones in vmallocinfo Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 7/9] mm: vmalloc: Insert lazy-VA per-cpu zone Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 8/9] mm: vmalloc: Offload free_vmap_area_lock global lock Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
     [not found]   ` <ZH0vuwaSddREy9dz@MiWiFi-R3L-srv>
     [not found]     ` <ZH7128Q0MiRh6S5f@pc638.lan>
     [not found]       ` <ZH8iWAgsDSF1I+B6@MiWiFi-R3L-srv>
2023-06-07  6:58         ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-22 11:08 ` [PATCH 9/9] mm: vmalloc: Scale and activate cvz_size Uladzislau Rezki (Sony)
2023-05-23 11:59 ` [PATCH 0/9] Mitigate a vmap lock contention Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-05-23 15:12   ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2023-05-23 18:04     ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-05-23 21:43       ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-24  1:30         ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-05-24  9:50       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-24 21:56         ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-25  7:59           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-25 10:20           ` Uladzislau Rezki

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