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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
Cc: Rick P Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	 "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 "peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	 "song@kernel.org" <song@kernel.org>,
	 "dave.hansen@linux.intel.com" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"vbabka@suse.cz" <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	 "x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Prototype for direct map awareness in page allocator
Date: Fri, 19 May 2023 08:40:48 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZGeYgKCFOkzP2fub@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZAn34D3hXR7dp8KC@kernel.org>

On Thu, Mar 09, 2023, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 09, 2023 at 01:59:00AM +0000, Edgecombe, Rick P wrote:
> > On Wed, 2023-03-08 at 11:41 +0200, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > > From: "Mike Rapoport (IBM)" <rppt@kernel.org>
> > > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > This is a third attempt to make page allocator aware of the direct
> > > map
> > > layout and allow grouping of the pages that must be unmapped from
> > > the direct map.
> > > 
> > > This a new implementation of __GFP_UNMAPPED, kinda a follow up for
> > > this set:
> > > 
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220127085608.306306-1-rppt@kernel.org
> > > 
> > > but instead of using a migrate type to cache the unmapped pages, the
> > > current implementation adds a dedicated cache to serve __GFP_UNMAPPED
> > > allocations.
> > 
> > It seems a downside to having a page allocator outside of _the_ page
> > allocator is you don't get all of the features that are baked in there.
> > For example does secretmem care about numa? I guess in this
> > implementation there is just one big cache for all nodes.
> > 
> > Probably most users would want __GFP_ZERO. Would secretmem care about
> > __GFP_ACCOUNT?
> 
> The intention was that the pages in cache are always zeroed, so __GFP_ZERO
> is always implicitly there, at least should have been.

Would it be possible to drop that assumption/requirement, i.e. allow allocation of
__GFP_UNMAPPED without __GFP_ZERO?  At a glance, __GFP_UNMAPPED looks like it would
be a great fit for backing guest memory, in particular for confidential VMs.  And
for some flavors of CoCo, i.e. TDX, the trusted intermediary is responsible for
zeroing/initializing guest memory as the untrusted host (kernel/KVM) doesn't have
access to the guest's encryption key.  In other words, zeroing in the kernel would
be unnecessary work.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-19 15:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-08  9:41 Mike Rapoport
2023-03-08  9:41 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] mm: intorduce __GFP_UNMAPPED and unmapped_alloc() Mike Rapoport
2023-03-09  1:56   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 14:39     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-09 15:34       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09  6:31   ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2023-03-09 15:27     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-24  8:37   ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-25  6:38     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-27 13:43       ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-27 14:31         ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-03-27 15:10           ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-28  6:25         ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-28  7:39           ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-28 15:11             ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-28 15:24               ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-29  7:28                 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-29  8:13                   ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-30  5:13                     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-30  8:11                       ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-28 17:18               ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-28 17:37                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-03-28 17:52                   ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-03-28 17:55                     ` Luis Chamberlain
2023-05-18  3:35   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 15:23     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-18 16:33       ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 16:48         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 17:00           ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 17:23             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 18:47               ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 19:03                 ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 19:15                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 20:03                     ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 20:13                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 20:51                     ` Song Liu
2023-05-19  1:24                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-19 15:08                         ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 19:16                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-19  8:29               ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-19 15:42                 ` Song Liu
2023-05-22 22:05                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 15:47                 ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-19 16:14                   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-19 16:21                     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 16:58         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 17:15           ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 17:25             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-18 18:54               ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 19:01           ` Song Liu
2023-05-18 19:10             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-03-08  9:41 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] mm/unmapped_alloc: add debugfs file similar to /proc/pagetypeinfo Mike Rapoport
2023-03-08  9:41 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] mm/unmapped_alloc: add shrinker Mike Rapoport
2023-03-08  9:41 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] EXPERIMENTAL: x86: use __GFP_UNMAPPED for modele_alloc() Mike Rapoport
2023-03-09  1:54   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-08  9:41 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] EXPERIMENTAL: mm/secretmem: use __GFP_UNMAPPED Mike Rapoport
2023-03-09  1:59 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Prototype for direct map awareness in page allocator Edgecombe, Rick P
2023-03-09 15:14   ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-19 15:40     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2023-05-19 16:24       ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-19 18:25         ` Sean Christopherson
2023-05-25 20:37           ` Mike Rapoport
2023-03-10  7:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-03-27 14:27 ` Mike Rapoport

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