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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	John Ogness <jogness@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Russell King <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Excessive TLB flush ranges
Date: Tue, 16 May 2023 17:48:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZGNRYsQ0PGL7ZZAn@bhe.users.ipa.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878rdo8xn2.ffs@tglx>

On 05/16/23 at 10:54am, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Tue, May 16 2023 at 16:07, Baoquan He wrote:
> > On 05/16/23 at 08:40am, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 16 2023 at 10:26, Baoquan He wrote:
> >> > On 05/15/23 at 08:17pm, Uladzislau Rezki wrote:
> >> >> For systems which lack a full TLB flush and to flush a long range is
> >> >> a problem(it takes time), probably we can flush VA one by one. Because
> >> >> currently we calculate a flush range [min:max] and that range includes
> >> >> the space that might not be mapped at all. Like below:
> >> >
> >> > It's fine if we only calculate a flush range of [min:max] with VA. In
> >> > vm_reset_perms(), it calculates the flush range with the impacted direct
> >> > mapping range, then merge it with VA's range. That looks really strange
> >> > and surprising. If the vm->pages[] are got from a lower part of physical
> >> > memory, the final merged flush will span tremendous range. Wondering why
> >> > we need merge the direct map range with VA range, then do flush. Not
> >> > sure if I misunderstand it.
> >> 
> >> So what happens on this BPF teardown is:
> >> 
> >> The vfree(8k) ends up flushing 3 entries. The actual vmalloc part (2) and
> >> one extra which is in the direct map. I haven't verified that yet, but I
> >> assume it's the alias of one of the vmalloc'ed pages.
> >
> > It looks like the reason. As Uladzislau pointed out, ARCH-es may
> > have full TLB flush, so won't get trouble from the merged flush
> > in the calculated [min:max] way, e.g arm64 and x86's flush_tlb_kernel_range().
> > However, arm32 seems lacking the ability of full TLB flash.
> 
> ARM has a full flush, but it does not check for that in
> flush_tlb_kernel_range().
> 
> > If agreed, I can make a draft patch to do the flush for direct map and
> > VA seperately, see if it works.
> 
> Of course it works. Already done that.
> 
> But you are missing the point. Look at the examples I provided.
> 
> The current implementation ends up doing a full flush on x86 just to
> flush 3 TLB entries. For the very same reason because the flush range
> (start..end) becomes insanely large due to the direct map and vmalloc
> parts.
> 
> But doing indivudual flushes for direct map and vmalloc space is silly
> too because then it ends up doing two IPIs instead of one. IPIs are
> expensive and the whole point of coalescing the flushes is to spare
> IPIs, no?
> 
> So with my hacked up flush_tlb_kernel_vas() I end up having exactly
> _one_ IPI which walks the list and flushes the 3 TLB entries.

Makes sense, thanks for telling. While your handling about alias_va may
not be right. I will add inline comment in your patch, please check
there. 



  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-16  9:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-15 16:43 Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 16:59 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-15 19:46   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 21:11     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 21:31       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  6:37         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  6:46           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:18           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:20             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:27               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  9:03                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 10:05                   ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16 14:21                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 19:03                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17  9:38                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 10:52                           ` Baoquan He
2023-05-19 11:22                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 11:49                               ` Baoquan He
2023-05-19 14:13                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 12:01                         ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] mm/vmalloc.c: try to flush vmap_area one by one Baoquan He
2023-05-19 14:16                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 12:02                         ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] mm/vmalloc.c: Only flush VM_FLUSH_RESET_PERMS area immediately Baoquan He
2023-05-19 12:03                         ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] mm/vmalloc.c: change _vm_unmap_aliases() to do purge firstly Baoquan He
2023-05-19 14:17                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 18:38                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 23:46                             ` Baoquan He
2023-05-21 23:10                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 11:21                                 ` Baoquan He
2023-05-22 12:02                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 14:34                                     ` Baoquan He
2023-05-22 20:21                                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-22 20:44                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-23  9:35                                         ` Baoquan He
2023-05-19 13:49                   ` Excessive TLB flush ranges Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:21             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  8:19           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  8:44             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:48               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16 12:09                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 13:42                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16 14:38                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16 15:01                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16 17:04                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 11:26                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-17 11:58                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 12:15                               ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-17 16:32                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 10:01                                   ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-19 14:56                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 15:14                                       ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-19 16:32                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-19 17:02                                           ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16 17:56                       ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-16 19:32                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17  0:23                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17  1:23                             ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-17 10:31                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 11:47                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 22:41                                   ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-17 14:43                                 ` Mark Rutland
2023-05-17 16:41                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 22:57                                 ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-19 11:49                                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-17 12:12                               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-17 23:14                                 ` Nadav Amit
2023-05-15 18:17 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2023-05-16  2:26   ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16  6:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:07       ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16  8:10         ` Baoquan He
2023-05-16  8:45         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-16  9:13           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  8:54         ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-16  9:48           ` Baoquan He [this message]
2023-05-15 20:02 ` Nadav Amit

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