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From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
To: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lstoakes@gmail.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/32] mm: Bring back vmalloc_exec
Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 17:54:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFrBEsjrfseCUzqV@moria.home.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230509214319.GA858791@frogsfrogsfrogs>

On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 02:43:19PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 02:12:41PM -0700, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 01:46:09PM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 12:56:32PM -0400, Kent Overstreet wrote:
> > > > From: Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > This is needed for bcachefs, which dynamically generates per-btree node
> > > > unpack functions.
> > >
> > > No, we will never add back a way for random code allocating executable
> > > memory in kernel space.
> > 
> > Yeah I think I glossed over this aspect a bit as it looks ostensibly like simply
> > reinstating a helper function because the code is now used in more than one
> > place (at lsf/mm so a little distracted :)
> > 
> > But it being exported is a problem. Perhaps there's another way of acheving the
> > same aim without having to do so?
> 
> I already trolled Kent with this on IRC, but for the parts of bcachefs
> that want better assembly code than whatever gcc generates from the C
> source, could you compile code to BPF and then let the BPF JIT engines
> turn that into machine code for you?

It's an intriguing idea, but it'd be a _lot_ of work and this is old
code that's never had a single bug - I'm not in a hurry to rewrite it.

And there would still be the issue that we've still got lots of little
unpack functions that go with other tables; we can't just burn a full
page per unpack function, that would waste way too much memory, and if
we put them together then we're stuck writing a whole nother allocator
- nope, and then we're also mucking with the memory layout of the data
structures used in the very hottest paths in the filesystem - I'm very
wary of introducing performance regressions there.

I think it'd be much more practical to find some way of making
vmalloc_exec() more palatable. What are the exact concerns?


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-09 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-09 16:56 [PATCH 00/32] bcachefs - a new COW filesystem Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 16:56 ` [PATCH 07/32] mm: Bring back vmalloc_exec Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 18:19   ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-09 20:15     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-09 20:46   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-09 21:12     ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-09 21:29       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-10  6:48         ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-12 18:36           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-13  1:57             ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-13 19:28               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-14  5:45               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-14 18:43                 ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-15  5:38                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-15  6:13                     ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-15  6:18                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-15  7:13                         ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-15  7:26                           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-21 21:33                             ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-21 22:04                               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-15 10:29                 ` David Laight
2023-05-10 11:56         ` David Laight
2023-05-09 21:43       ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-05-09 21:54         ` Kent Overstreet [this message]
2023-05-11  5:33           ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-05-11  5:44             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-13 13:25       ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2023-05-14 18:39         ` Christophe Leroy
2023-05-14 23:43           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-15  4:45             ` Christophe Leroy
2023-05-15  5:02               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-10 14:18   ` Christophe Leroy
2023-05-10 15:05   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2023-05-11 22:28     ` Kees Cook
2023-05-12 18:41       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-16 21:02         ` Kees Cook
2023-05-16 21:20           ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-16 21:47             ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-16 21:57               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-17  5:28               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-17 14:04                 ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-17 14:18                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-05-17 15:44                     ` Mike Rapoport
2023-05-17 15:59                       ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-17  4:13             ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-17 15:34               ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-17 19:19                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-17 20:08                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-17 20:35                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-19 19:45                 ` Kees Cook
2023-06-20  0:39                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-19  9:19   ` Mark Rutland
2023-06-19 10:47     ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-19 12:47       ` Mark Rutland
2023-06-19 19:17         ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-20 17:42           ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-20 18:08             ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-20 18:15               ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-20 18:48                 ` Dave Hansen
2023-06-20 20:18                   ` Kent Overstreet
2023-06-20 20:42                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-20 22:32                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-20 22:43                       ` Nadav Amit
2023-06-21  1:27                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2023-06-15 20:41 ` [PATCH 00/32] bcachefs - a new COW filesystem Pavel Machek
2023-06-15 21:26   ` Kent Overstreet

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