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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, mhocko@suse.com,
	josef@toxicpanda.com, jack@suse.cz, ldufour@linux.ibm.com,
	laurent.dufour@fr.ibm.com, michel@lespinasse.org,
	liam.howlett@oracle.com, jglisse@google.com, vbabka@suse.cz,
	minchan@google.com, dave@stgolabs.net,
	punit.agrawal@bytedance.com, lstoakes@gmail.com,
	hdanton@sina.com, apopple@nvidia.com, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kernel-team@android.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mm: handle swap page faults under VMA lock if page is uncontended
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 23:31:09 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFGPLXIis6tl1QWX@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJuCfpFs+Rgpu8v+ddHFwtOx33W5k1sKDdXHM2ej1Upyo_9y4g@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 09:36:03AM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:03 AM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 10:04:56PM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 8:22 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 07:30:13PM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > > > On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 7:02 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 10:50:23AM -0700, Suren Baghdasaryan wrote:
> > > > > > > +++ b/mm/memory.c
> > > > > > > @@ -3711,11 +3711,6 @@ vm_fault_t do_swap_page(struct vm_fault *vmf)
> > > > > > >       if (!pte_unmap_same(vmf))
> > > > > > >               goto out;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -     if (vmf->flags & FAULT_FLAG_VMA_LOCK) {
> > > > > > > -             ret = VM_FAULT_RETRY;
> > > > > > > -             goto out;
> > > > > > > -     }
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > >       entry = pte_to_swp_entry(vmf->orig_pte);
> > > > > > >       if (unlikely(non_swap_entry(entry))) {
> > > > > > >               if (is_migration_entry(entry)) {
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You're missing the necessary fallback in the (!folio) case.
> > > > > > swap_readpage() is synchronous and will sleep.
> > > > >
> > > > > True, but is it unsafe to do that under VMA lock and has to be done
> > > > > under mmap_lock?
> > > >
> > > > ... you were the one arguing that we didn't want to wait for I/O with
> > > > the VMA lock held?
> > >
> > > Well, that discussion was about waiting in folio_lock_or_retry() with
> > > the lock being held. I argued against it because currently we drop
> > > mmap_lock lock before waiting, so if we don't drop VMA lock we would
> > > be changing the current behavior which might introduce new
> > > regressions. In the case of swap_readpage and swapin_readahead we
> > > already wait with mmap_lock held, so waiting with VMA lock held does
> > > not introduce new problems (unless there is a need to hold mmap_lock).
> > >
> > > That said, you are absolutely correct that this situation can be
> > > improved by dropping the lock in these cases too. I just didn't want
> > > to attack everything at once. I believe after we agree on the approach
> > > implemented in https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230501175025.36233-3-surenb@google.com
> > > for dropping the VMA lock before waiting, these cases can be added
> > > easier. Does that make sense?
> >
> > OK, I looked at this path some more, and I think we're fine.  This
> > patch is only called for SWP_SYNCHRONOUS_IO which is only set for
> > QUEUE_FLAG_SYNCHRONOUS devices, which are brd, zram and nvdimms
> > (both btt and pmem).  So the answer is that we don't sleep in this
> > path, and there's no need to drop the lock.
> 
> Yes but swapin_readahead does sleep, so I'll have to handle that case
> too after this.

Sleeping is OK, we do that in pXd_alloc()!  Do we block on I/O anywhere
in swapin_readahead()?  It all looks like async I/O to me.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-02 22:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-01 17:50 Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 17:50 ` [PATCH 2/3] mm: drop VMA lock before waiting for migration Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 13:21   ` Alistair Popple
2023-05-02 16:39     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 13:03       ` Alistair Popple
2023-05-03 19:42         ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 14:28   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-02 16:41     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-01 17:50 ` [PATCH 3/3] mm: implement folio wait under VMA lock Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02  2:02 ` [PATCH 1/3] mm: handle swap page faults under VMA lock if page is uncontended Matthew Wilcox
     [not found]   ` <CAJuCfpHfAFx9rjv0gHK77LbP-8gd-kFnWw=aqfQTP6pH=zvMNg@mail.gmail.com>
2023-05-02  3:22     ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-02  5:04       ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 15:03         ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-02 16:36           ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 22:31             ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2023-05-02 23:04               ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-02 23:40                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-03  1:05                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03  8:34                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-05-03 19:57                   ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2023-05-03 20:57                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2023-05-05  5:02                       ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-05 22:30                         ` Suren Baghdasaryan

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