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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>, Baokun Li <libaokun1@huawei.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>, Zhang Yi <yi.zhang@redhat.com>,
	yangerkun <yangerkun@huawei.com>,
	ming.lei@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [ext4 io hang] buffered write io hang in balance_dirty_pages
Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 08:57:32 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZFBf/CXN2ktVYL/N@ovpn-8-16.pek2.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230501044744.GA20056@lst.de>

On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 06:47:44AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 01:10:49PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > Not sure if it is needed for non s_bdev
> 
> So you don't want to work this at all for btrfs?  Or the XFS log device,
> or ..

Basically FS can provide one generic API of shutdown_filesystem() which
shutdown FS generically, meantime calls each fs's ->shutdown() for
dealing with fs specific shutdown.

If there isn't superblock attached for one bdev, can you explain a bit what
filesystem code can do? Same with block layer bdev.

The current bio->bi_status together disk_live()(maybe bdev_live() is
needed) should be enough for FS code to handle non s_bdev.

> 
> > , because FS is over stackable device
> > directly. Stackable device has its own logic for handling underlying disks dead
> > or deleted, then decide if its own disk needs to be deleted, such as, it is
> > fine for raid1 to work from user viewpoint if one underlying disk is deleted.
> 
> We still need to propagate the even that device has been removed upwards.
> Right now some file systems (especially XFS) are good at just propagating
> it from an I/O error.  And explicity call would be much better.

It depends on the above question about how FS code handle non s_bdev
deletion/dead.


Thanks,
Ming



  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-02 18:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-27  2:20 Ming Lei
2023-04-27  3:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-27  4:50   ` Ming Lei
2023-04-27  6:36     ` Baokun Li
2023-04-27  7:33       ` Baokun Li
2023-04-27 10:01       ` Ming Lei
2023-04-27 11:19         ` Baokun Li
2023-04-27 11:27           ` Ming Lei
2023-04-28  1:41             ` Ming Lei
2023-04-28  3:47               ` Baokun Li
2023-04-28  5:47                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-04-29  3:16                   ` Ming Lei
2023-04-29  4:40                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-29  5:10                       ` Ming Lei
2023-05-01  4:47                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-02  0:57                           ` Ming Lei [this message]
2023-05-02  1:35                             ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-02 15:35                               ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-05-02 22:33                                 ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-02 23:27                                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-04-29  4:56                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-05-01  2:06                       ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-04  3:09                   ` Baokun Li
2023-04-27 23:33 ` Dave Chinner
2023-04-28  2:56   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-28  5:24     ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-04 15:59 ` Keith Busch
2023-05-04 16:21   ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-05  2:06   ` Ming Lei

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