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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arjan Van De Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@redhat.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Pavel Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/6] mm: improve page allocator scalability via splitting zones
Date: Thu, 11 May 2023 17:05:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZF0ET82ajDbFrIw/@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230511065607.37407-1-ying.huang@intel.com>

On Thu 11-05-23 14:56:01, Huang Ying wrote:
> The patchset is based on upstream v6.3.
> 
> More and more cores are put in one physical CPU (usually one NUMA node
> too).  In 2023, one high-end server CPU has 56, 64, or more cores.
> Even more cores per physical CPU are planned for future CPUs.  While
> all cores in one physical CPU will contend for the page allocation on
> one zone in most cases.  This causes heavy zone lock contention in
> some workloads.  And the situation will become worse and worse in the
> future.
> 
> For example, on an 2-socket Intel server machine with 224 logical
> CPUs, if the kernel is built with `make -j224`, the zone lock
> contention cycles% can reach up to about 12.7%.
> 
> To improve the scalability of the page allocation, in this series, we
> will create one zone instance for each about 256 GB memory of a zone
> type generally.  That is, one large zone type will be split into
> multiple zone instances.  Then, different logical CPUs will prefer
> different zone instances based on the logical CPU No.  So the total
> number of logical CPUs contend on one zone will be reduced.  Thus the
> scalability is improved.

It is not really clear to me why you need a new zone for all this rather
than partition free lists internally within the zone? Essentially to
increase the current two level system to 3: per cpu caches, per cpu
arenas and global fallback.

I am also missing some information why pcp caches tunning is not
sufficient.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-05-11 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-11  6:56 Huang Ying
2023-05-11  6:56 ` [RFC 1/6] mm: distinguish zone type and zone instance explicitly Huang Ying
2023-05-11  6:56 ` [RFC 2/6] mm: add struct zone_type_struct to describe zone type Huang Ying
2023-05-11  6:56 ` [RFC 3/6] mm: support multiple zone instances per zone type in memory online Huang Ying
2023-05-11  6:56 ` [RFC 4/6] mm: avoid show invalid zone in /proc/zoneinfo Huang Ying
2023-05-11  6:56 ` [RFC 5/6] mm: create multiple zone instances for one zone type based on memory size Huang Ying
2023-05-11  6:56 ` [RFC 6/6] mm: prefer different zone list on different logical CPU Huang Ying
2023-05-11 10:30 ` [RFC 0/6] mm: improve page allocator scalability via splitting zones Jonathan Cameron
2023-05-11 13:07   ` Arjan van de Ven
2023-05-11 14:23 ` Dave Hansen
2023-05-12  3:08   ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-11 15:05 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2023-05-12  2:55   ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-15 11:14     ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-16  9:38       ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-16 10:30         ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-17  1:34           ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-17  8:09             ` David Hildenbrand
2023-05-18  8:06               ` Huang, Ying
2023-05-24 12:30           ` Michal Hocko
2023-05-29  1:13             ` Huang, Ying

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