From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Baokun Li <libaokun1@huawei.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Dave Chinner <dchinner@redhat.com>,
Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Zhang Yi <yi.zhang@redhat.com>, yangerkun <yangerkun@huawei.com>,
ming.lei@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [ext4 io hang] buffered write io hang in balance_dirty_pages
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2023 19:27:04 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZEpcCOCNDhdMHQyY@ovpn-8-26.pek2.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <663b10eb-4b61-c445-c07c-90c99f629c74@huawei.com>
On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 07:19:35PM +0800, Baokun Li wrote:
> On 2023/4/27 18:01, Ming Lei wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 02:36:51PM +0800, Baokun Li wrote:
> > > On 2023/4/27 12:50, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > > Hello Matthew,
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 04:58:36AM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 10:20:28AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > > > > Hello Guys,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I got one report in which buffered write IO hangs in balance_dirty_pages,
> > > > > > after one nvme block device is unplugged physically, then umount can't
> > > > > > succeed.
> > > > > That's a feature, not a bug ... the dd should continue indefinitely?
> > > > Can you explain what the feature is? And not see such 'issue' or 'feature'
> > > > on xfs.
> > > >
> > > > The device has been gone, so IMO it is reasonable to see FS buffered write IO
> > > > failed. Actually dmesg has shown that 'EXT4-fs (nvme0n1): Remounting
> > > > filesystem read-only'. Seems these things may confuse user.
> > >
> > > The reason for this difference is that ext4 and xfs handle errors
> > > differently.
> > >
> > > ext4 remounts the filesystem as read-only or even just continues, vfs_write
> > > does not check for these.
> > vfs_write may not find anything wrong, but ext4 remount could see that
> > disk is gone, which might happen during or after remount, however.
> >
> > > xfs shuts down the filesystem, so it returns a failure at
> > > xfs_file_write_iter when it finds an error.
> > >
> > >
> > > ``` ext4
> > > ksys_write
> > > vfs_write
> > > ext4_file_write_iter
> > > ext4_buffered_write_iter
> > > ext4_write_checks
> > > file_modified
> > > file_modified_flags
> > > __file_update_time
> > > inode_update_time
> > > generic_update_time
> > > __mark_inode_dirty
> > > ext4_dirty_inode ---> 2. void func, No propagating errors out
> > > __ext4_journal_start_sb
> > > ext4_journal_check_start ---> 1. Error found, remount-ro
> > > generic_perform_write ---> 3. No error sensed, continue
> > > balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited
> > > balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited_flags
> > > balance_dirty_pages
> > > // 4. Sleeping waiting for dirty pages to be freed
> > > __set_current_state(TASK_KILLABLE)
> > > io_schedule_timeout(pause);
> > > ```
> > >
> > > ``` xfs
> > > ksys_write
> > > vfs_write
> > > xfs_file_write_iter
> > > if (xfs_is_shutdown(ip->i_mount))
> > > return -EIO; ---> dd fail
> > > ```
> > Thanks for the info which is really helpful for me to understand the
> > problem.
> >
> > > > > balance_dirty_pages() is sleeping in KILLABLE state, so kill -9 of
> > > > > the dd process should succeed.
> > > > Yeah, dd can be killed, however it may be any application(s), :-)
> > > >
> > > > Fortunately it won't cause trouble during reboot/power off, given
> > > > userspace will be killed at that time.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Ming
> > > >
> > > Don't worry about that, we always set the current thread to TASK_KILLABLE
> > >
> > > while waiting in balance_dirty_pages().
> > I have another concern, if 'dd' isn't killed, dirty pages won't be cleaned, and
> > these (big amount)memory becomes not usable, and typical scenario could be USB HDD
> > unplugged.
> >
> >
> > thanks,
> > Ming
> Yes, it is unreasonable to continue writing data with the previously opened
> fd after
> the file system becomes read-only, resulting in dirty page accumulation.
>
> I provided a patch in another reply.
> Could you help test if it can solve your problem?
> If it can indeed solve your problem, I will officially send it to the email
> list.
OK, I will test it tomorrow.
But I am afraid if it can avoid the issue completely because the
old write task hang in balance_dirty_pages() may still write/dirty pages
if it is one very big size write IO.
Thanks,
Ming
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-27 12:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-27 2:20 Ming Lei
2023-04-27 3:58 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-27 4:50 ` Ming Lei
2023-04-27 6:36 ` Baokun Li
2023-04-27 7:33 ` Baokun Li
2023-04-27 10:01 ` Ming Lei
2023-04-27 11:19 ` Baokun Li
2023-04-27 11:27 ` Ming Lei [this message]
2023-04-28 1:41 ` Ming Lei
2023-04-28 3:47 ` Baokun Li
2023-04-28 5:47 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-04-29 3:16 ` Ming Lei
2023-04-29 4:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-04-29 5:10 ` Ming Lei
2023-05-01 4:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-05-02 0:57 ` Ming Lei
2023-05-02 1:35 ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-02 15:35 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-05-02 22:33 ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-02 23:27 ` Darrick J. Wong
2023-04-29 4:56 ` Theodore Ts'o
2023-05-01 2:06 ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-04 3:09 ` Baokun Li
2023-04-27 23:33 ` Dave Chinner
2023-04-28 2:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-04-28 5:24 ` Dave Chinner
2023-05-04 15:59 ` Keith Busch
2023-05-04 16:21 ` Matthew Wilcox
2023-05-05 2:06 ` Ming Lei
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