From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Jaewon Kim <jaewon31.kim@samsung.com>
Cc: "jstultz@google.com" <jstultz@google.com>,
"tjmercier@google.com" <tjmercier@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] dma-buf/heaps: system_heap: avoid too much allocation
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 15:01:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZDarxo2Q4cgFHdbh@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230412123532epcms1p23092e51df04b3fb4e18e90b324ebcaa4@epcms1p2>
On Wed 12-04-23 21:35:32, Jaewon Kim wrote:
> >On Wed 12-04-23 20:37:59, Jaewon Kim wrote:
> >> Limiting dmabuf memory may be required. But I think there
> >> is no nice and reasonable way so far.
> >
> >If that is really the way then the patch doesn't really add a big
> >benefit. It doesn't really prevent OOMs (or panics due to OOM) as the
> >allocator still allows to consume arbitrary amount of memory. The
> >provided check is not able to tell between buggy and legit calls.
> >--
> >Michal Hocko
> >SUSE Labs
>
> Yes it could be. Though the buggy call is blocked by totalram_pages check,
It seems our definitions of buggy differ here. I do not see much
difference between totalram_pages +- PAGE_SIZE (or any epsilon for that
matter). Both would put the system down to its knees without a way out
other than panic.
> mm may suffer memory shortage due to the huge memory consumption through
> dma-buf system heap. We just hope Android LMKD or oomk kills the memory
> hoggers prior to oom panic.
You seem to be missing an important point. If the global OOM killer is
not able to find a victim the LMKD or oomk are highly unlikely as well
(unless they ignore OOM_SCORE_ADJ_MIN).
> IMO if possible mm should be able to track the dma-buf size as stat in
> mm_rss_stat for each process.
I do remember some proposals from the past and IIRC the main problem was
how to attribute those buffers to the actual owner.
I believe I have give you some arguments to consider. The rest is up to
you. As I've said I do not have any stakes in dmabuf. The patch itself
is not actively harmful, it is just adding an illusion of a fix while it
doesn't give much.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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2023-04-10 7:32 ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-12 8:22 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <CGME20230410073304epcas1p4cf3079b096994d69472b7801bd530bc7@epcms1p7>
2023-04-12 8:57 ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-12 9:23 ` Michal Hocko
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2023-04-12 9:44 ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-12 11:02 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <CGME20230410073304epcas1p4cf3079b096994d69472b7801bd530bc7@epcms1p8>
2023-04-12 11:37 ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-12 11:51 ` Michal Hocko
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2023-04-12 12:35 ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-12 13:01 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2023-04-12 16:49 ` T.J. Mercier
2023-04-12 22:10 ` Jaewon Kim
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2023-04-13 0:16 ` Jaewon Kim
2023-04-13 6:55 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <CGME20230410073304epcas1p4cf3079b096994d69472b7801bd530bc7@epcms1p1>
2023-04-13 7:01 ` Jaewon Kim
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