From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@atomlin.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
x86@kernel.org, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 00/13] fold per-CPU vmstats remotely
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 08:59:28 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZD/XoBTqJBL2G+Dk@tpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZD/Qq9v0EDxUn7HW@tpad>
On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 08:29:47AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 08:14:09AM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > This was tried before:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20220127173037.318440631@fedora.localdomain/
> >
> > My conclusion from that discussion (and work) is that a special system
> > call:
> >
> > 1) Does not allow the benefits to be widely applied (only modified
> > applications will benefit). Is not portable across different operating systems.
> >
> > Removing the vmstat_work interruption is a benefit for HPC workloads,
> > for example (in fact, it is a benefit for any kind of application,
> > since the interruption causes cache misses).
> >
> > 2) Increases the system call cost for applications which would use
> > the interface.
> >
> > So avoiding the vmstat_update update interruption, without userspace
> > knowledge and modifications, is a better than solution than a modified
> > userspace.
>
> Another important point is this: if an application dirties
> its own per-CPU vmstat cache, while performing a system call,
Or while handling a VM-exit from a vCPU.
This are, in my mind, sufficient reasons to discard the "flush per-cpu
caches" idea. This is also why i chose to abandon the prctrl interface
patchset.
> and a vmstat sync event is triggered on a different CPU, you'd have to:
>
> 1) Wait for that CPU to return to userspace and sync its stats
> (unfeasible).
>
> 2) Queue work to execute on that CPU (undesirable, as that causes
> an interruption).
>
> 3) Remotely sync the vmstat for that CPU.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-19 12:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-20 18:03 Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 01/13] vmstat: allow_direct_reclaim should use zone_page_state_snapshot Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:21 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-20 18:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-22 10:03 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 02/13] this_cpu_cmpxchg: ARM64: switch this_cpu_cmpxchg to locked, add _local function Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 03/13] this_cpu_cmpxchg: loongarch: " Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 04/13] this_cpu_cmpxchg: S390: " Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 05/13] this_cpu_cmpxchg: x86: " Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 06/13] add this_cpu_cmpxchg_local and asm-generic definitions Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 07/13] convert this_cpu_cmpxchg users to this_cpu_cmpxchg_local Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 08/13] mm/vmstat: switch counter modification to cmpxchg Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 09/13] vmstat: switch per-cpu vmstat counters to 32-bits Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 10/13] mm/vmstat: use xchg in cpu_vm_stats_fold Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 11/13] mm/vmstat: switch vmstat shepherd to flush per-CPU counters remotely Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 12/13] mm/vmstat: refresh stats remotely instead of via work item Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:03 ` [PATCH v7 13/13] vmstat: add pcp remote node draining via cpu_vm_stats_fold Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 20:43 ` Tim Chen
2023-03-22 1:20 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-20 18:25 ` [PATCH v7 00/13] fold per-CPU vmstats remotely Michal Hocko
2023-03-20 19:07 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-22 10:13 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-22 11:23 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-22 13:35 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-22 14:20 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-23 7:51 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-23 10:52 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-23 10:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-23 12:17 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-23 13:30 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-23 13:32 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-18 22:02 ` Andrew Morton
2023-04-19 11:14 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 11:15 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 13:44 ` Andrew Theurer
2023-04-20 7:55 ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-23 1:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 11:29 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 11:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2023-04-19 12:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-04-19 13:48 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 14:35 ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-19 16:35 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-20 8:40 ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-23 1:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-20 13:45 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-26 14:34 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-27 8:31 ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-27 14:59 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-26 15:04 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-04-26 16:10 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-27 8:39 ` Michal Hocko
2023-04-27 16:25 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-04-19 16:47 ` Vlastimil Babka
2023-04-19 19:15 ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-05-03 13:51 ` Marcelo Tosatti
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