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From: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbecker@suse.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Leonardo Bras <leobras@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sched/isolation: Add cpu_is_isolated() API
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 07:24:54 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZCFu9jFm/rskeNlM@tpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZB4lt3IaPWVmn41n@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, Mar 24, 2023 at 11:35:35PM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> Le Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 09:04:38AM +0100, Michal Hocko a écrit :
> > On Fri 17-03-23 15:35:05, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 03:33:13PM -0300, Marcelo Tosatti wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 02:44:47PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Provide this new API to check if a CPU has been isolated either through
> > > > > isolcpus= or nohz_full= kernel parameter.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It aims at avoiding kernel load deemed to be safely spared on CPUs
> > > > > running sensitive workload that can't bear any disturbance, such as
> > > > > pcp cache draining.
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Michal,
> > > > 
> > > > This makes no sense to me.
> > > > 
> > > > HK_TYPE_DOMAIN is set when isolcpus=domain is configured.
> > > > HK_TYPE_TICK is set when nohz_full= is configured.
> > > > 
> > > > The use-cases i am aware of use either:
> > > > 
> > > > isolcpus=managed_irq,... nohz_full=
> > > > OR
> > > > isolcpus=domain,managed_irq,... nohz_full=
> > > > 
> > > > So what is the point of this function again?
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps it made sense along with, but now does not make sense
> > > > anymore:
> > > > 
> > > > Subject: [PATCH 1/2] sched/isolation: Merge individual nohz_full features into a common housekeeping flag
> > > > 
> > > > The individual isolation features turned on by nohz_full were initially
> > > > split in order for each of them to be tunable through cpusets. However
> > > > plans have changed in favour of an interface (be it cpusets or sysctl)
> > > > grouping all these features to be turned on/off altogether. Then should
> > > > the need ever arise, the interface can still be expanded to handle the
> > > > individual isolation features.
> > > > 
> > > > But Michal can just use housekeeping_test_cpu(cpu, HK_TYPE_TICK) and
> > > > the convertion of nohz_full features into a common housekeeping flag
> > > > can convert that to something else later?
> > > 
> > > Actually introducing cpu_is_isolated() seems fine, but it can call
> > > housekeeping_test_cpu(cpu, HK_TYPE_TICK) AFAICS.
> >  
> > This is not really my area. Frederic, could you have a look please?
> 
> The point is to have a function that tells if either nohz_full= or
> isolcpus=[domain] has been passed for the given CPU.
> 
> Because I assumed that both would be interested in avoiding that flush
> noise, wouldn't it be the case?

Yes, that is the case. But as a note: for the two main types of
configuration performed (one uses isolcpus=[domain] and the other
cgroups, for isolating processes) nohz_full= is always set.

So just testing for nohz_full= would be sufficient (which perhaps would
make the code simpler).



  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-27 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-17 13:44 [PATCH 0/2] memcg, cpuisol: do not interfere pcp cache charges draining with cpuisol workloads Michal Hocko
2023-03-17 13:44 ` [PATCH 1/2] sched/isolation: Add cpu_is_isolated() API Michal Hocko
2023-03-17 18:33   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-17 18:35     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-18  8:04       ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-24 22:35         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-27 10:24           ` Marcelo Tosatti [this message]
2023-03-28 11:38             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-03-28 11:48             ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-29 14:20               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-30 13:28                 ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-30 15:21                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2023-03-17 13:44 ` [PATCH 2/2] memcg: do not drain charge pcp caches on remote isolated cpus Michal Hocko
2023-03-17 20:08   ` Shakeel Butt
2023-03-17 21:51   ` kernel test robot
2023-03-17 22:22   ` kernel test robot
2023-03-17 23:32     ` Andrew Morton
2023-03-18  8:03       ` Michal Hocko
2023-03-18  3:23   ` Hillf Danton
2023-03-18  8:08     ` Michal Hocko

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