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From: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
To: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
Cc: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@samsung.com>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-modules@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] module: Taint the kernel when write-protecting ro_after_init fails
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2025 10:38:43 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z9HGoxwTpOfzbBP9@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <202503120923.199D458CB@keescook>

On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 09:30:28AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2025 at 04:45:24PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> > On 3/6/25 17:57, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > > + linux-mm since we're adding TAINT_BAD_PAGE
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 11:36:55AM +0100, Petr Pavlu wrote:
> > >> In the unlikely case that setting ro_after_init data to read-only fails, it
> > >> is too late to cancel loading of the module. The loader then issues only
> > >> a warning about the situation. Given that this reduces the kernel's
> > >> protection, it was suggested to make the failure more visible by tainting
> > >> the kernel.
> > >> 
> > >> Allow TAINT_BAD_PAGE to be set per-module and use it in this case. The flag
> > >> is set in similar situations and has the following description in
> > >> Documentation/admin-guide/tainted-kernels.rst: "bad page referenced or some
> > >> unexpected page flags".
> > >> 
> > >> Adjust the warning that reports the failure to avoid references to internal
> > >> functions and to add information about the kernel being tainted, both to
> > >> match the style of other messages in the file. Additionally, merge the
> > >> message on a single line because checkpatch.pl recommends that for the
> > >> ability to grep for the string.
> > >> 
> > >> Suggested-by: Kees Cook <kees@kernel.org>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>
> > >> ---
> > >> I opted to use TAINT_BAD_PAGE for now because it seemed unnecessary to me
> > >> to introduce a new flag only for this specific case. However, if we end up
> > >> similarly checking set_memory_*() in the boot context, a separate flag
> > >> would be probably better.
> > >> ---
> > >>  kernel/module/main.c | 7 ++++---
> > >>  kernel/panic.c       | 2 +-
> > >>  2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > >> 
> > >> diff --git a/kernel/module/main.c b/kernel/module/main.c
> > >> index 1fb9ad289a6f..8f424a107b92 100644
> > >> --- a/kernel/module/main.c
> > >> +++ b/kernel/module/main.c
> > >> @@ -3030,10 +3030,11 @@ static noinline int do_init_module(struct module *mod)
> > >>  	rcu_assign_pointer(mod->kallsyms, &mod->core_kallsyms);
> > >>  #endif
> > >>  	ret = module_enable_rodata_ro_after_init(mod);
> > >> -	if (ret)
> > >> -		pr_warn("%s: module_enable_rodata_ro_after_init() returned %d, "
> > >> -			"ro_after_init data might still be writable\n",
> > >> +	if (ret) {
> > >> +		pr_warn("%s: write-protecting ro_after_init data failed with %d, the data might still be writable - tainting kernel\n",
> > >>  			mod->name, ret);
> > >> +		add_taint_module(mod, TAINT_BAD_PAGE, LOCKDEP_STILL_OK);
> > >> +	}
> > >>  
> > >>  	mod_tree_remove_init(mod);
> > >>  	module_arch_freeing_init(mod);
> > >> diff --git a/kernel/panic.c b/kernel/panic.c
> > >> index d8635d5cecb2..794c443bfb5c 100644
> > >> --- a/kernel/panic.c
> > >> +++ b/kernel/panic.c
> > >> @@ -497,7 +497,7 @@ const struct taint_flag taint_flags[TAINT_FLAGS_COUNT] = {
> > >>  	TAINT_FLAG(CPU_OUT_OF_SPEC,		'S', ' ', false),
> > >>  	TAINT_FLAG(FORCED_RMMOD,		'R', ' ', false),
> > >>  	TAINT_FLAG(MACHINE_CHECK,		'M', ' ', false),
> > >> -	TAINT_FLAG(BAD_PAGE,			'B', ' ', false),
> > >> +	TAINT_FLAG(BAD_PAGE,			'B', ' ', true),
> > >>  	TAINT_FLAG(USER,			'U', ' ', false),
> > >>  	TAINT_FLAG(DIE,				'D', ' ', false),
> > >>  	TAINT_FLAG(OVERRIDDEN_ACPI_TABLE,	'A', ' ', false),
> > > 
> > > Reviewed-by: Luis Chamberlain <mcgrof@kernel.org>
> > > 
> > > For our needs this makes sense, however I am curious if TAINT_BAD_PAGE
> > > is too broadly generic, and also if we're going to add it, if there are
> > > other mm uses for such a thing.
> > 
> > I'm not sure BAD_PAGE is a good fit. If there was a new flag that meant "a
> > hardening measure failed", would that have other possible uses? The
> > semantics would be that the kernel self-protection was weakened wrt
> > expectations, even if not yet a corruption due to attack would be detected.
> > Some admins could opt-in to panic in such case anyway, etc. Any other
> > hardening features where such "failure to harden" is possible and could use
> > this too? Kees?
> 
> Yeah, it could certainly be used. The direction the hardening stuff has
> taken is to use WARN() (as Linus requires no direct BUG() usage), and to
> recommend that end users tune their warn_limit sysctl as needed.
> 
> Being able to TAINT might be useful, but I don't have any places that
> immediately come to mind that seem appropriate for it (besides this
> case). Hm, well, maybe in the case of a W^X test failure? (I note that
> this is also a "safe memory permission" failure...)
> 
> How about TAINT_WEAKENED_PROTECTION ? Or something that carries that
> idea?

It's different, but hw poison [0] already has policies for running into poisoned
pages through MCA recovery, there are a few sysctl knobs to tune this,
for example vm.memory_failure_recovery set to 0 will panic on a hw
poison page.

A hw poison event without a panic seems like a possible use case for
such a taint TAINT_WEAKENED_PROTECTION?

[0] https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/mm/hwpoison.rst

  Luis


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-12 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250306103712.29549-1-petr.pavlu@suse.com>
2025-03-06 16:57 ` Luis Chamberlain
2025-03-12 15:45   ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-03-12 16:30     ` Kees Cook
2025-03-12 17:38       ` Luis Chamberlain [this message]
2025-03-14 16:48       ` Christophe Leroy
2025-03-14 19:19         ` Kees Cook

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