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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
Cc: Bharata B Rao <bharata@amd.com>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/4] mm: migrate: Allow misplaced migration without VMA too
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2025 18:42:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8nsgr46eVH7W7SJ@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z8nnPYldSXs5TYND@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F>

On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 01:19:41PM -0500, Gregory Price wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 05:45:34PM +0000, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 12:24:16PM -0500, Gregory Price wrote:
> > > we may also need this:
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20250107000346.1338481-4-gourry@gourry.net/
> > > 
> > > May be worth just pulling these ahead to avoid conflict.
> > 
> > Or not putting them in at all because this whole thing is a magnificent
> > waste of time?
> 
> Divorced from the tiering mechanisms, is making misplaced migration able
> to migrate unmapped pages not generally useful?

The only thing I can think of is if you have a process or set of
processes on node A calling read() and the file is cached on node B.
But in order to decide if the page is on the wrong node, you'd need
to track a lot of information about which nodes the page is being
accessed from.  Which is probably why we've never bothered to do it.

This is not a large patch for you to carry as part of your patchset.
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with it; it just has no users in
mainline and no real prospect of any being added soon.


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-06 18:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-06  5:45 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Kernel daemon for detecting and promoting hot pages Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06  5:45 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] mm: migrate: Allow misplaced migration without VMA too Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06 12:13   ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-07  3:00     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06 17:24   ` Gregory Price
2025-03-06 17:45     ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-03-06 18:19       ` Gregory Price
2025-03-06 18:42         ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2025-03-06 20:03           ` Gregory Price
2025-03-24  2:55   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-24 14:51     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06  5:45 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] mm: kpromoted: Hot page info collection and promotion daemon Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06 17:22   ` Mike Day
2025-03-07  3:27     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-13 16:44   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-03-17  3:39     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-17 15:05       ` Gregory Price
2025-03-17 16:22         ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-17 18:24           ` Gregory Price
2025-03-13 20:36   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2025-03-17  3:49     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-14 15:28   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-18  4:09     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-18 14:17       ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-24  3:35   ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-28  4:55     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-24 13:43   ` Gregory Price
2025-03-24 14:34     ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-06  5:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] x86: ibs: In-kernel IBS driver for memory access profiling Bharata B Rao
2025-03-14 15:38   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-03-06  5:45 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] x86: ibs: Enable IBS profiling for memory accesses Bharata B Rao
2025-03-16 22:00 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Kernel daemon for detecting and promoting hot pages SeongJae Park
2025-03-18  6:33   ` Raghavendra K T
2025-03-18 10:45   ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-18  5:28 ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-20  9:07   ` Bharata B Rao
2025-03-21  6:19     ` Balbir Singh
2025-03-25  8:18 ` Bharata B Rao

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