From: Brendan Jackman <jackmanb@google.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>, Dev Jain <dev.jain@arm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 08/10] selftests/mm: Skip gup_longerm tests on weird filesystems
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2025 12:42:03 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z8mYG8eQnMsOA4c1@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <08023d47-dcf4-4efb-bf13-5aef3c6dca14@redhat.com>
On Thu, Mar 06, 2025 at 10:28:09AM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 28.02.25 17:54, Brendan Jackman wrote:
> > Some filesystems don't support funtract()ing unlinked files. They return
> > ENOENT. In that case, skip the test.
> >
>
> That's not documented in the man page, so is this a bug of these
> filesystems?
Um...
unlink(2) does say:
If the name was the last link to a file but any processes still have
the file open, the file will remain in existence until the last file
descriptor referring to it is closed.
And POSIX says
If one or more processes have the file open when the last link is
removed, the link shall be removed before unlink() returns, but the
removal of the file contents shall be postponed until all references
to the file are closed
I didn't call it a bug in the commit message because my impression was
always that filesystem semantics are broadly determined by vibes. But
looking at the above I do feel more confident that the "unlink isn't
delete" thing is actually a pretty solid expectation.
> What are examples for these weird filesystems?
My experience of the issue is with 9pfs. broonie reported on #mm that
NFS can display similar issues but I haven't hit it myself.
> As we have the fstype available, we could instead simply reject more
> filesystems earlier. See fs_is_unknown().
Oh. I didn't know this was so easy, I thought that checking the
filesystem type would require some awful walk to find the mountpoint
and join it against the mount list. (Now I think about it, I should
have recorded this rationale in the commit message, so you could
easily see my bogus reasoning).
If there's a syscall to just say "what FS is this file on please?"
we should just do that and explicitly denylist the systems that are
known to have issues. I will just do 9pfs for now. Maybe we can log
warning if the error shows up on systems that aren't listed, then if
someone does run into it on NFS they should get a strong clue about
what the problem is.
Thanks!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-03-06 12:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-28 16:54 [PATCH v3 00/10] selftests/mm: Some cleanups from trying to run them Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 01/10] selftests/mm: Report errno when things fail in gup_longterm Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:17 ` Dev Jain
2025-03-06 9:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 02/10] selftests/mm: Skip uffd-stress if userfaultfd not available Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:20 ` Dev Jain
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 03/10] selftests/mm: Skip uffd-wp-mremap " Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:25 ` Dev Jain
2025-03-03 10:48 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-03 11:00 ` Dev Jain
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 04/10] selftests/mm/uffd: Rename nr_cpus -> nr_threads Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:36 ` Dev Jain
2025-03-03 9:47 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-03 10:18 ` Dev Jain
2025-03-03 10:34 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-03 10:46 ` Dev Jain
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 05/10] selftests/mm: Print some details when uffd-stress gets bad params Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:26 ` Dev Jain
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 06/10] selftests/mm: Don't fail uffd-stress if too many CPUs Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:37 ` Dev Jain
2025-03-05 11:07 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 07/10] selftests/mm: Skip map_populate on weird filesystems Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 08/10] selftests/mm: Skip gup_longerm tests " Brendan Jackman
2025-03-06 9:28 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-06 12:42 ` Brendan Jackman [this message]
2025-03-06 14:40 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-11 13:00 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-11 19:53 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-12 8:34 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-14 12:10 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-14 12:17 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-03-14 15:56 ` Brendan Jackman
2025-03-14 21:19 ` David Hildenbrand
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 09/10] selftests/mm: Drop unnecessary sudo usage Brendan Jackman
2025-02-28 17:26 ` Dev Jain
2025-02-28 16:54 ` [PATCH v3 10/10] selftests/mm: Ensure uffd-wp-mremap gets pages of each size Brendan Jackman
2025-03-05 8:25 ` [PATCH v3 00/10] selftests/mm: Some cleanups from trying to run them Muhammad Usama Anjum
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