From: Uladzislau Rezki <urezki@gmail.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/7] mm, slab: call kvfree_rcu_barrier() from kmem_cache_destroy()
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2025 12:44:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z7xbrnP8kTQKYO6T@pc636> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2811463a-751f-4443-9125-02628dc315d9@suse.cz>
On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 06:28:49PM +0100, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 2/21/25 17:30, Keith Busch wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 07, 2024 at 12:31:19PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> >> We would like to replace call_rcu() users with kfree_rcu() where the
> >> existing callback is just a kmem_cache_free(). However this causes
> >> issues when the cache can be destroyed (such as due to module unload).
> >>
> >> Currently such modules should be issuing rcu_barrier() before
> >> kmem_cache_destroy() to have their call_rcu() callbacks processed first.
> >> This barrier is however not sufficient for kfree_rcu() in flight due
> >> to the batching introduced by a35d16905efc ("rcu: Add basic support for
> >> kfree_rcu() batching").
> >>
> >> This is not a problem for kmalloc caches which are never destroyed, but
> >> since removing SLOB, kfree_rcu() is allowed also for any other cache,
> >> that might be destroyed.
> >>
> >> In order not to complicate the API, put the responsibility for handling
> >> outstanding kfree_rcu() in kmem_cache_destroy() itself. Use the newly
> >> introduced kvfree_rcu_barrier() to wait before destroying the cache.
> >> This is similar to how we issue rcu_barrier() for SLAB_TYPESAFE_BY_RCU
> >> caches, but has to be done earlier, as the latter only needs to wait for
> >> the empty slab pages to finish freeing, and not objects from the slab.
> >>
> >> Users of call_rcu() with arbitrary callbacks should still issue
> >> rcu_barrier() before destroying the cache and unloading the module, as
> >> kvfree_rcu_barrier() is not a superset of rcu_barrier() and the
> >> callbacks may be invoking module code or performing other actions that
> >> are necessary for a successful unload.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
> >> ---
> >> mm/slab_common.c | 3 +++
> >> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/mm/slab_common.c b/mm/slab_common.c
> >> index c40227d5fa07..1a2873293f5d 100644
> >> --- a/mm/slab_common.c
> >> +++ b/mm/slab_common.c
> >> @@ -508,6 +508,9 @@ void kmem_cache_destroy(struct kmem_cache *s)
> >> if (unlikely(!s) || !kasan_check_byte(s))
> >> return;
> >>
> >> + /* in-flight kfree_rcu()'s may include objects from our cache */
> >> + kvfree_rcu_barrier();
> >> +
> >> cpus_read_lock();
> >> mutex_lock(&slab_mutex);
> >
> > This patch appears to be triggering a new warning in certain conditions
> > when tearing down an nvme namespace's block device. Stack trace is at
> > the end.
> >
> > The warning indicates that this shouldn't be called from a
> > WQ_MEM_RECLAIM workqueue. This workqueue is responsible for bringing up
> > and tearing down block devices, so this is a memory reclaim use AIUI.
> > I'm a bit confused why we can't tear down a disk from within a memory
> > reclaim workqueue. Is the recommended solution to simply remove the WQ
> > flag when creating the workqueue?
>
> I think it's reasonable to expect a memory reclaim related action would
> destroy a kmem cache. Mateusz's suggestion would work around the issue, but
> then we could get another surprising warning elsewhere. Also making the
> kmem_cache destroys async can be tricky when a recreation happens
> immediately under the same name (implications with sysfs/debugfs etc). We
> managed to make the destroying synchronous as part of this series and it
> would be great to keep it that way.
>
> > ------------[ cut here ]------------
> > workqueue: WQ_MEM_RECLAIM nvme-wq:nvme_scan_work is flushing !WQ_MEM_RECLAIM events_unbound:kfree_rcu_work
>
> Maybe instead kfree_rcu_work should be using a WQ_MEM_RECLAIM workqueue? It
> is after all freeing memory. Ulad, what do you think?
>
We reclaim memory, therefore WQ_MEM_RECLAIM seems what we need.
AFAIR, there is an extra rescue worker, which can really help
under a low memory condition in a way that we do a progress.
Do we have a reproducer of mentioned splat?
--
Uladzislau Rezki
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-24 11:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <20240807-b4-slab-kfree_rcu-destroy-v2-0-ea79102f428c@suse.cz>
2024-08-09 15:02 ` [-next conflict imminent] Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] mm, slub: handle pending kfree_rcu() in kmem_cache_destroy() Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-09 15:12 ` Jann Horn
2024-08-09 15:14 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-10 0:11 ` Andrew Morton
2024-08-10 20:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-10 20:30 ` Andrew Morton
[not found] ` <20240807-b4-slab-kfree_rcu-destroy-v2-5-ea79102f428c@suse.cz>
2024-08-09 16:26 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] rcu/kvfree: Add kvfree_rcu_barrier() API Uladzislau Rezki
2024-08-09 17:00 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-08-20 16:02 ` Uladzislau Rezki
[not found] ` <20240807-b4-slab-kfree_rcu-destroy-v2-7-ea79102f428c@suse.cz>
2024-08-09 16:23 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] kunit, slub: add test_kfree_rcu() and test_leak_destroy() Uladzislau Rezki
2024-09-14 13:22 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2024-09-14 18:39 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-09-20 13:35 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-09-21 20:40 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-09-21 21:08 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-09-21 21:25 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-09-22 6:16 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2024-09-22 14:13 ` Guenter Roeck
2024-09-25 12:56 ` Hyeonggon Yoo
2024-09-26 12:54 ` Vlastimil Babka
2024-09-30 8:47 ` Vlastimil Babka
[not found] ` <20240807-b4-slab-kfree_rcu-destroy-v2-6-ea79102f428c@suse.cz>
2025-02-21 16:30 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] mm, slab: call kvfree_rcu_barrier() from kmem_cache_destroy() Keith Busch
2025-02-21 16:51 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-21 16:52 ` Mateusz Guzik
2025-02-21 17:28 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-24 11:44 ` Uladzislau Rezki [this message]
2025-02-24 15:37 ` Keith Busch
2025-02-25 9:57 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-25 13:39 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-02-25 14:12 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-25 16:03 ` Keith Busch
2025-02-25 17:05 ` Keith Busch
2025-02-25 17:41 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-02-25 18:11 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-25 18:21 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-02-25 18:21 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-02-26 10:59 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-26 14:31 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-02-26 14:36 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-26 15:42 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-02-26 15:46 ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-02-26 15:57 ` Uladzislau Rezki
2025-02-26 15:51 ` Keith Busch
2025-02-26 15:58 ` Uladzislau Rezki
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