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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Chris Li <chrisl@kernel.org>, Barry Song <v-songbaohua@oppo.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>,
	Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Kalesh Singh <kaleshsingh@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/7] mm, swap: use percpu cluster as allocation fast path
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2025 17:26:55 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z7Wj3/YjcF5xzbHm@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMgjq7C0Yg164SHJcP6wDC0od-xRuBMxLsJJwB0oWavpgsr8tg@mail.gmail.com>

On 02/19/25 at 04:34pm, Kairui Song wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 3:54 PM Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Baoquan,
> 
> Thanks for the review!
> 
> >
> > On 02/15/25 at 01:57am, Kairui Song wrote:
> > > From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> > >
> > > Current allocation workflow first traverses the plist with a global lock
> > > held, after choosing a device, it uses the percpu cluster on that swap
> > > device. This commit moves the percpu cluster variable out of being tied
> > > to individual swap devices, making it a global percpu variable, and will
> > > be used directly for allocation as a fast path.
> > >
> > > The global percpu cluster variable will never point to a HDD device, and
> > > allocation on HDD devices is still globally serialized.
> > >
> > > This improves the allocator performance and prepares for removal of the
> > > slot cache in later commits. There shouldn't be much observable behavior
> > > change, except one thing: this changes how swap device allocation
> > > rotation works.
> > >
> > > Currently, each allocation will rotate the plist, and because of the
> > > existence of slot cache (64 entries), swap devices of the same priority
> > > are rotated for every 64 entries consumed. And, high order allocations
> > > are different, they will bypass the slot cache, and so swap device is
> > > rotated for every 16K, 32K, or up to 2M allocation.
> > >
> > > The rotation rule was never clearly defined or documented, it was changed
> > > several times without mentioning too.
> > >
> > > After this commit, once slot cache is gone in later commits, swap device
> > > rotation will happen for every consumed cluster. Ideally non-HDD devices
> > > will be rotated if 2M space has been consumed for each order, this seems
> >
> > This breaks the rule where the high priority swap device is always taken
> > to allocate as long as there's free space in the device. After this patch,
> > it will try the percpu cluster firstly which is lower priority even though
> > the higher priority device has free space. However, this only happens when
> > the higher priority device is exhausted, not a generic case. If this is
> > expected, it may need be mentioned in log or doc somewhere at least.
> 
> Hmm, actually this rule was already broken if you are very strict
> about it. The current percpu slot cache does a pre-allocation, so the
> high priority device will be removed from the plist while some CPU's
> slot cache holding usable entries.

Ah, right, I didn't think about this point.

> 
> If the high priority device is exhausted, some CPU's percpu cluster
> will point to a low priority device indeed, and keep using it until
> the percpu cluster is drained. I think this should be
> OK. The high priority device is already full, so the amount of
> swapouts falls back to low priority device is only a performance
> issue, I think it's a tiny change for a rare case.

Agree, thanks for explanation.

> 
> >
> > > reasonable. HDD devices is rotated for every allocation regardless of the
> > > allocation order, which should be OK and trivial.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> > > ---
> > >  include/linux/swap.h |  11 ++--
> > >  mm/swapfile.c        | 120 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------------
> > >  2 files changed, 79 insertions(+), 52 deletions(-)
> > ......
> > > diff --git a/mm/swapfile.c b/mm/swapfile.c
> > > index ae3bd0a862fc..791cd7ed5bdf 100644
> > > --- a/mm/swapfile.c
> > > +++ b/mm/swapfile.c
> > > @@ -116,6 +116,18 @@ static atomic_t proc_poll_event = ATOMIC_INIT(0);
> > >
> > ......snip....
> > >  int get_swap_pages(int n_goal, swp_entry_t swp_entries[], int entry_order)
> > >  {
> > >       int order = swap_entry_order(entry_order);
> > > @@ -1211,19 +1251,28 @@ int get_swap_pages(int n_goal, swp_entry_t swp_entries[], int entry_order)
> > >       int n_ret = 0;
> > >       int node;
> > >
> > > +     /* Fast path using percpu cluster */
> > > +     local_lock(&percpu_swap_cluster.lock);
> > > +     n_ret = swap_alloc_fast(swp_entries,
> > > +                             SWAP_HAS_CACHE,
> > > +                             order, n_goal);
> > > +     if (n_ret == n_goal)
> > > +             goto out;
> > > +
> > > +     n_goal = min_t(int, n_goal - n_ret, SWAP_BATCH);
> >
> > Here, the behaviour is changed too. In old allocation, partial
> > allocation will jump out to return. In this patch, you try the percpu
> > cluster firstly, then call scan_swap_map_slots() to try best and will
> > jump out even though partial allocation succeed. But the allocation from
> > scan_swap_map_slots() could happen on different si device, this looks
> > bizarre. Do you think we need reconsider the design?
> 
> Right, that's a behavior change, but only temporarily affects slot cache.
> get_swap_pages will only be called with size > 1 when order == 0, and
> only by slot cache. (Large order allocation always use size == 1,
> other users only uses order == 0 && size == 1). So I didn't' notice
> it, as this series is removing slot cache.

Right, I am reviewing patch 6, noticed this is temporary.

> 
> The partial side effect would be "returned slots will be from
> different devices" and "slot_cache may get drained faster as
> get_swap_pages may return less slots when percpu cluster is drained".
> Might be a performance issue but seems slight and trivial, slot cache
> can still work. And the next commit will just remove the slot cache,
> and the problem will be gone. I think I can add a comment about it
> here?

Sounds good. Adding comment can avoid other people being confused when
checking patch 5. Thanks.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-19  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-14 17:57 [PATCH 0/7] mm, swap: remove swap slot cache Kairui Song
2025-02-14 17:57 ` [PATCH 1/7] mm, swap: avoid reclaiming irrelevant swap cache Kairui Song
2025-02-19  2:11   ` Baoquan He
2025-02-14 17:57 ` [PATCH 2/7] mm, swap: drop the flag TTRS_DIRECT Kairui Song
2025-02-19  2:42   ` Baoquan He
2025-02-14 17:57 ` [PATCH 3/7] mm, swap: avoid redundant swap device pinning Kairui Song
2025-02-19  3:35   ` Baoquan He
2025-02-14 17:57 ` [PATCH 4/7] mm, swap: don't update the counter up-front Kairui Song
2025-02-14 17:57 ` [PATCH 5/7] mm, swap: use percpu cluster as allocation fast path Kairui Song
2025-02-19  7:53   ` Baoquan He
2025-02-19  8:34     ` Kairui Song
2025-02-19  9:26       ` Baoquan He [this message]
2025-02-19 10:55       ` Baoquan He
2025-02-19 11:12         ` Kairui Song
2025-02-20  2:35           ` Baoquan He
2025-02-20  2:48             ` Kairui Song
2025-02-20  3:24               ` Baoquan He
2025-02-14 17:57 ` [PATCH 6/7] mm, swap: remove swap slot cache Kairui Song
2025-02-15 16:23   ` kernel test robot
2025-02-20  7:55   ` Baoquan He
2025-02-24  3:16     ` Kairui Song
2025-02-14 17:57 ` [PATCH 7/7] mm, swap: simplify folio swap allocation Kairui Song
2025-02-14 20:13   ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-02-15  6:40     ` Kairui Song
2025-02-15 16:43   ` kernel test robot
2025-02-15 16:54   ` kernel test robot
2025-02-20 10:41   ` Baoquan He
2025-02-15 10:27 ` [PATCH 0/7] mm, swap: remove swap slot cache Baoquan He
2025-02-15 13:34   ` Kairui Song
2025-02-15 15:07     ` Baoquan He

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