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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@hammerspace.com>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna.schumaker@oracle.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH for-akpm for-6.14-rcX] NFS: fix nfs_release_folio() to not call nfs_wb_folio() from kcompactd
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 10:55:07 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z785W_G-9PZitxUz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z782z2suQAtBcS9j@kernel.org>

On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 10:44:15AM -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 06:58:11AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 07:33:01PM -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > > Add PF_KCOMPACTD flag and current_is_kcompactd() helper to check for
> > > it so nfs_release_folio() can skip calling nfs_wb_folio() from
> > > kcompactd.
> > > 
> > > Otherwise NFS can deadlock waiting for kcompactd enduced writeback
> > > which recurses back to NFS (which triggers writeback to NFSD via
> > > NFS loopback mount on the same host, NFSD blocks waiting for XFS's
> > > call to __filemap_get_folio):
> > 
> > Having a flag for a specific kernel thread feels wrong.  I'm not an
> > expert in this area, but as fast as I can tell the problem is that
> > kcompactd should be calling into ->release_folio without __GFP_IO
> > set.
> 
> We can easily remove PF_KCOMPACTD and current_is_kcompactd() if/when
> more analysis and a cleaner fix emerges (from you, mm experts, etc).
> I'm not saying you're wrong about GFP flags needing to be clamped by
> kcompactd's call to ->release_folio, but it seems more finishing work
> needed.
> 
> As you can tell from my patch, we already have kswapd specialization
> with PF_KSWAPD and current_is_kswapd().  A consumer of large folios
> knowing that it being called as kcompactd is useful, hence my fix for
> deadlock seen with NFS loopback mounts on memory constrained systems.

Also, as followup to my fix: Trond and I have started exploring giving
NFS the ability to do more meaningful work on behalf of kswapd and
kcompactd from ->release_folio (rather than simply punt, by returning
false, like your proposed GFP flag clamping would do), see:

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/snitzer/linux.git/commit/?h=kernel-6.12/nfs-next&id=b8fd0d3864e4bd43eaca1045002e89bede8fd91f

(I'm still working on testing/refining this patch...)


  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-26 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-25  0:33 Mike Snitzer
2025-02-25  2:20 ` [PATCH v2 for-akpm for-6.14-rcX] NFS: fix nfs_release_folio() to not deadlock via kcompactd writeback Mike Snitzer
2025-02-25  6:53   ` Andrew Morton
2025-02-25 17:02     ` Mike Snitzer
2025-02-25 20:19       ` [PATCH v3 " Mike Snitzer
2025-02-25 20:28       ` Mike Snitzer
2025-02-26 14:58 ` [PATCH for-akpm for-6.14-rcX] NFS: fix nfs_release_folio() to not call nfs_wb_folio() from kcompactd Christoph Hellwig
2025-02-26 15:44   ` Mike Snitzer
2025-02-26 15:55     ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2025-02-26 17:22   ` Trond Myklebust
2025-02-26 22:02   ` Andrew Morton

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