From: Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 14/14] Documentation: KHO: Add memblock bindings
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2025 22:41:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6kTCvex3DGhB-3C@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a3cca0ed-64ca-4921-bb4c-27c0e06b78c6@kernel.org>
On Sun, Feb 09, 2025 at 04:23:09PM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 09/02/2025 16:10, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 09, 2025 at 11:29:41AM +0100, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> >> On 06/02/2025 14:27, Mike Rapoport wrote:
> >>> From: "Mike Rapoport (Microsoft)" <rppt@kernel.org>
> >>>
> >>> We introduced KHO into Linux: A framework that allows Linux to pass
> >>> metadata and memory across kexec from Linux to Linux. KHO reuses fdt
> >>> as file format and shares a lot of the same properties of firmware-to-
> >>> Linux boot formats: It needs a stable, documented ABI that allows for
> >>> forward and backward compatibility as well as versioning.
> >>
> >> Please use subject prefixes matching the subsystem. You can get them for
> >> example with `git log --oneline -- DIRECTORY_OR_FILE` on the directory
> >> your patch is touching. For bindings, the preferred subjects are
> >> explained here:
> >> https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/devicetree/bindings/submitting-patches.html#i-for-patch-submitters
> >
> > These are not devicetree binding for communicating data from firmware to
> > the kernel. These bindings are specific to KHO which is perfectly
> > reflected by the subject.
>
> No, it is not. None of the bindings use above subject prefix.
>
> >
> > Just a brief reminder from v2 discussion:
> > (https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20231222193607.15474-1-graf@amazon.com/)
> >
> > "For quick reference: KHO is a new mechanism this patch set introduces
> > which allows Linux to pass arbitrary memory and metadata between kernels
> > on kexec. I'm reusing FDTs to implement the hand over protocol, as
> > Linux-to-Linux boot communication holds very similar properties to
> > firmware-to-Linux boot communication. So this binding is not about
> > hardware; it's about preserving Linux subsystem state across kexec.
>
> does not matter. You added file to ABI documentation so you must follow
> that ABI documentation rules. One rule is proper subject prefix.
No, it does not. It's a different ABI.
FDT is a _data structure_ that provides cross platform unified, versioned,
introspectable data format.
Documentation/devicetree/bindings standardizes it's use for describing
hardware, but KHO uses FDT _data structure_ to describe state of the kernel
components that will be reused by the kexec'ed kernel.
KHO is a different namespace from Open Firmware Device Tree, with different
requirements and different stakeholders. Putting descriptions of KHO data
formats in Documentation/kho rather than in
Documentation/devicetree/bindings was not done to evade review of Open
Firmware Device Tree maintainers, but rather to emphasize that KHO FDT _is
not_ Open Firmware Device Tree.
> Best regards,
> Krzysztof
--
Sincerely yours,
Mike.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-09 20:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-06 13:27 [PATCH v4 00/14] kexec: introduce Kexec HandOver (KHO) Mike Rapoport
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 01/14] mm/mm_init: rename init_reserved_page to init_deferred_page Mike Rapoport
2025-02-18 14:59 ` Wei Yang
2025-02-19 7:13 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-20 8:36 ` Wei Yang
2025-02-20 14:54 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-25 7:40 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 02/14] memblock: add MEMBLOCK_RSRV_KERN flag Mike Rapoport
2025-02-18 15:50 ` Wei Yang
2025-02-19 7:24 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-23 0:22 ` Wei Yang
2025-03-10 9:51 ` Wei Yang
2025-03-11 5:27 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-03-11 13:41 ` Wei Yang
2025-03-12 5:22 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-24 1:31 ` Wei Yang
2025-02-25 7:46 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-26 2:09 ` Wei Yang
2025-03-10 7:56 ` Wei Yang
2025-03-10 8:28 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-03-10 9:42 ` Wei Yang
2025-02-26 1:53 ` Changyuan Lyu
2025-03-13 15:41 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 03/14] memblock: Add support for scratch memory Mike Rapoport
2025-02-24 2:50 ` Wei Yang
2025-02-25 7:47 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 04/14] memblock: introduce memmap_init_kho_scratch() Mike Rapoport
2025-02-24 3:02 ` Wei Yang
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 05/14] kexec: Add Kexec HandOver (KHO) generation helpers Mike Rapoport
2025-02-10 20:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-10 20:58 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-02-11 12:49 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-11 16:14 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-02-11 16:37 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-12 15:23 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-12 16:39 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-12 17:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-23 18:51 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-24 14:28 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-12 12:29 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 06/14] kexec: Add KHO parsing support Mike Rapoport
2025-02-10 20:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-03-10 16:20 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-03-10 17:08 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 07/14] kexec: Add KHO support to kexec file loads Mike Rapoport
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 08/14] kexec: Add config option for KHO Mike Rapoport
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 09/14] kexec: Add documentation " Mike Rapoport
2025-02-10 19:26 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 10/14] arm64: Add KHO support Mike Rapoport
2025-02-09 10:38 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 11/14] x86/setup: use memblock_reserve_kern for memory used by kernel Mike Rapoport
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 12/14] x86: Add KHO support Mike Rapoport
2025-02-24 7:13 ` Wei Yang
2025-02-24 14:36 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-25 0:00 ` Wei Yang
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 13/14] memblock: Add KHO support for reserve_mem Mike Rapoport
2025-02-10 16:03 ` Rob Herring
2025-02-12 16:30 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-17 4:04 ` Wei Yang
2025-02-19 7:25 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-06 13:27 ` [PATCH v4 14/14] Documentation: KHO: Add memblock bindings Mike Rapoport
2025-02-09 10:29 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-09 15:10 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-09 15:23 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-09 20:41 ` Mike Rapoport [this message]
2025-02-09 20:49 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-09 20:50 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-10 19:15 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-10 19:27 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-10 20:20 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-02-12 16:00 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-07 0:29 ` [PATCH v4 00/14] kexec: introduce Kexec HandOver (KHO) Andrew Morton
2025-02-07 1:28 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-02-08 1:38 ` Baoquan He
2025-02-08 8:41 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-08 11:13 ` Baoquan He
2025-02-09 0:23 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-02-09 3:07 ` Baoquan He
2025-02-07 8:06 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-09 10:33 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-02-07 4:50 ` Andrew Morton
2025-02-07 8:01 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-08 23:39 ` Cong Wang
2025-02-09 0:13 ` Pasha Tatashin
2025-02-09 1:00 ` Cong Wang
2025-02-09 0:51 ` Cong Wang
2025-02-17 3:19 ` RuiRui Yang
2025-02-19 7:32 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-19 12:49 ` Dave Young
2025-02-19 13:54 ` Alexander Graf
2025-02-20 1:49 ` Dave Young
2025-02-20 16:43 ` Alexander Gordeev
2025-02-23 17:54 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-26 20:08 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-02-28 20:20 ` Mike Rapoport
2025-02-28 23:04 ` Pratyush Yadav
2025-03-02 9:52 ` Mike Rapoport
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