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From: Yosry Ahmed <yosry.ahmed@linux.dev>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 14/17] zsmalloc: make zspage lock preemptible
Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2025 16:19:36 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6ThGFt6wyNpx9xi@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6uhsj4bckhursiblkxe54azfgyqal6tq2de3lpkxw6omkised6@uylodcjruuei>

On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 12:05:55PM +0900, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
> On (25/02/05 19:06), Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> > > > For example, the compaction/migration code could be sleeping holding the
> > > > write lock, and a map() call would spin waiting for that sleeping task.
> > > 
> > > write-lock holders cannot sleep, that's the key part.
> > > 
> > > So the rules are:
> > > 
> > > 1) writer cannot sleep
> > >    - migration/compaction runs in atomic context and grabs
> > > 	 write-lock only from atomic context
> > >    - write-locking function disables preemption before lock(), just to be
> > > 	 safe, and enables it after unlock()
> > > 
> > > 2) writer does not spin waiting
> > >    - that's why there is only write_try_lock function
> > > 	  - compaction and migration bail out when they cannot lock the
> > > 		zspage
> > > 
> > > 3) readers can sleep and can spin waiting for a lock
> > >    - other (even preempted) readers don't block new readers
> > >    - writers don't sleep, they always unlock
> > 
> > That's useful, thanks. If we go with custom locking we need to document
> > this clearly and add debug checks where possible.
> 
> Sure.  That's what it currently looks like (can always improve)
> 
> ---
> /*
>  * zspage lock permits preemption on the reader-side (there can be multiple
>  * readers).  Writers (exclusive zspage ownership), on the other hand, are
>  * always run in atomic context and cannot spin waiting for a (potentially
>  * preempted) reader to unlock zspage.  This, basically, means that writers
>  * can only call write-try-lock and must bail out if it didn't succeed.
>  *
>  * At the same time, writers cannot reschedule under zspage write-lock,
>  * so readers can spin waiting for the writer to unlock zspage.
>  */
> static void zspage_read_lock(struct zspage *zspage)
> {
>         atomic_t *lock = &zspage->lock;
>         int old = atomic_read_acquire(lock);
> 
>         do {
>                 if (old == ZS_PAGE_WRLOCKED) {
>                         cpu_relax();
>                         old = atomic_read_acquire(lock);
>                         continue;
>                 }
>         } while (!atomic_try_cmpxchg_acquire(lock, &old, old + 1));
> 
> #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC
>         rwsem_acquire_read(&zspage->lockdep_map, 0, 0, _RET_IP_);
> #endif
> }
> 
> static void zspage_read_unlock(struct zspage *zspage)
> {
>         atomic_dec_return_release(&zspage->lock);
> 
> #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC
>         rwsem_release(&zspage->lockdep_map, _RET_IP_);
> #endif
> }
> 
> static bool zspage_try_write_lock(struct zspage *zspage)
> {
>         atomic_t *lock = &zspage->lock;
>         int old = ZS_PAGE_UNLOCKED;
> 
>         preempt_disable();
>         if (atomic_try_cmpxchg_acquire(lock, &old, ZS_PAGE_WRLOCKED)) {
> #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC
>                 rwsem_acquire(&zspage->lockdep_map, 0, 0, _RET_IP_);
> #endif
>                 return true;
>         }
> 
>         preempt_enable();
>         return false;
> }
> 
> static void zspage_write_unlock(struct zspage *zspage)
> {
>         atomic_set_release(&zspage->lock, ZS_PAGE_UNLOCKED);
> #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_LOCK_ALLOC
>         rwsem_release(&zspage->lockdep_map, _RET_IP_);
> #endif
>         preempt_enable();
> }
> ---
> 
> Maybe I'll just copy-paste the locking rules list, a list is always cleaner.

Thanks. I think it would be nice if we could also get someone with
locking expertise to take a look at this.

> 
> > > > I wonder if there's a way to rework the locking instead to avoid the
> > > > nesting. It seems like sometimes we lock the zspage with the pool lock
> > > > held, sometimes with the class lock held, and sometimes with no lock
> > > > held.
> > > > 
> > > > What are the rules here for acquiring the zspage lock?
> > > 
> > > Most of that code is not written by me, but I think the rule is to disable
> > > "migration" be it via pool lock or class lock.
> > 
> > It seems like we're not holding either of these locks in
> > async_free_zspage() when we call lock_zspage(). Is it safe for a
> > different reason?
> 
> I think we hold size class lock there. async-free is only for pages that
> reached 0 usage ratio (empty fullness group), so they don't hold any
> objects any more and from her such zspages either get freed or
> find_get_zspage() recovers them from fullness 0 and allocates an object.
> Both are synchronized by size class lock.
> 
> > > Hmm, I don't know... zsmalloc is not "read-mostly", it's whatever data
> > > patterns the clients have.   I suspect we'd need to synchronize RCU every
> > > time a zspage is freed: zs_free() [this one is complicated], or migration,
> > > or compaction?  Sounds like anti-pattern for RCU?
> > 
> > Can't we use kfree_rcu() instead of synchronizing? Not sure if this
> > would still be an antipattern tbh.
> 
> Yeah, I don't know.  The last time I wrongly used kfree_rcu() it caused a
> 27% performance drop (some internal code).  This zspage thingy maybe will
> be better, but still has a potential to generate high numbers of RCU calls,
> depends on the clients.  Probably the chances are too high.  Apart from
> that, kvfree_rcu() can sleep, as far as I understand, so zram might have
> some extra things to deal with, namely slot-free notifications which can
> be called from softirq, and always called under spinlock:
> 
>  mm slot-free -> zram slot-free -> zs_free -> empty zspage -> kfree_rcu
> 
> > It just seems like the current locking scheme is really complicated :/
> 
> That's very true.

Seems like we have to compromise either way, custom locking or we enter
into a new complexity realm with RCU freeing.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-02-06 16:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-31  9:05 [PATCHv4 00/17] zsmalloc/zram: there be preemption Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 01/17] zram: switch to non-atomic entry locking Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31 11:41   ` Hillf Danton
2025-02-03  3:21     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-03  3:52       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-03 12:39       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31 22:55   ` Andrew Morton
2025-02-03  3:26     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-03  7:11       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-03  7:33         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-04  0:19       ` Andrew Morton
2025-02-04  4:22         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-06  7:01     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-06  7:38       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-06  7:47         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-06  8:13           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-06  8:17             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-06  8:26               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-06  8:29                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 02/17] zram: do not use per-CPU compression streams Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-01  9:21   ` Kairui Song
2025-02-03  3:49     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-03 21:00       ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-06 12:26         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-06  6:55       ` Kairui Song
2025-02-06  7:22         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-06  8:22           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-06 16:16           ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-07  2:56             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-07  6:12               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-07 21:07                 ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-08 16:20                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-08 16:41                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-09  6:22                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-09  7:42                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 03/17] zram: remove crypto include Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 04/17] zram: remove max_comp_streams device attr Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 05/17] zram: remove two-staged handle allocation Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 06/17] zram: permit reclaim in zstd custom allocator Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 07/17] zram: permit reclaim in recompression handle allocation Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 08/17] zram: remove writestall zram_stats member Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 09/17] zram: limit max recompress prio to num_active_comps Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 10/17] zram: filter out recomp targets based on priority Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 11/17] zram: unlock slot during recompression Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 12/17] zsmalloc: factor out pool locking helpers Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31 15:46   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-03  4:57     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 13/17] zsmalloc: factor out size-class " Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 14/17] zsmalloc: make zspage lock preemptible Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31 15:51   ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-03  3:13     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-03  4:56       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-03 21:11       ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-04  6:59         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-04 17:19           ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-05  2:43             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-05 19:06               ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-06  3:05                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-06  3:28                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-06 16:19                   ` Yosry Ahmed [this message]
2025-02-07  2:48                     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-07 21:09                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-12  5:00                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-12 15:35                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-13  2:18                             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-13  2:57                               ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-13  7:21                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-13  8:22                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-02-13 15:25                                     ` Yosry Ahmed
2025-02-14  3:33                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 15/17] zsmalloc: introduce new object mapping API Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 16/17] zram: switch to new zsmalloc " Sergey Senozhatsky
2025-01-31  9:06 ` [PATCHv4 17/17] zram: add might_sleep to zcomp API Sergey Senozhatsky

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