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From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	nehagholkar@meta.com, abhishekd@meta.com, kernel-team@meta.com,
	david@redhat.com, nphamcs@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	hannes@cmpxchg.org, kbusch@meta.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 PATCH 0/5] Promotion of Unmapped Page Cache Folios.
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 09:48:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z2bVWWuGe0aiv-t_@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o715r4vn.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA>

On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 01:18:04PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> writes:
> 
> >
> > Single-reader DRAM: ~16.0-16.4s
> > Single-reader CXL (after demotion):  ~16.8-17s
> 
> The difference is trivial.  This makes me thought that why we need this
> patchset?
>

That's 3-6% performance in this contrived case.

We're working to testing a real workload we know suffers from this
problem as it is long-running. Should be early in the new year hopefully.

> > Next we turned promotion on with only a single reader running.
> >
> > Before promotions:
> >     Node 0 MemFree:        636478112 kB
> >     Node 0 FilePages:      59009156 kB
> >     Node 1 MemFree:        250336004 kB
> >     Node 1 FilePages:      14979628 kB
> 
> Why are there some many file pages on node 1 even if there're a lot of
> free pages on node 0?  You moved some file pages from node 0 to node 1?
> 

This was explicit and explained in the test notes:

  First we ran with promotion disabled to show consistent overhead as
  a result of forcing a file out to CXL memory. We first ran a single
  reader to see uncontended performance, launched many readers to force
  demotions, then dropped back to a single reader to observe.

The goal here was to simply demonstrate functionality and stability.

> > After promotions:
> >     Node 0 MemFree:        632267268 kB
> >     Node 0 FilePages:      72204968 kB
> >     Node 1 MemFree:        262567056 kB
> >     Node 1 FilePages:       2918768 kB
> >
> > Single-reader (after_promotion): ~16.5s

This represents a 2.5-6% speedup depending on the spread.

> >
> > numa_migrate_prep: 93 - time(3969867917) count(42576860)
> > migrate_misplaced_folio_prepare: 491 - time(3433174319) count(6985523)
> > migrate_misplaced_folio: 1635 - time(11426529980) count(6985523)
> >
> > Thoughts on a good throttling heuristic would be appreciated here.
> 
> We do have a throttle mechanism already, for example, you can used
> 
> $ echo 100 > /proc/sys/kernel/numa_balancing_promote_rate_limit_MBps
> 
> to rate limit the promotion throughput under 100 MB/s for each DRAM
> node.
>

Can easily piggyback on that, just wasn't sure if overloading it was
an acceptable idea.  Although since that promotion rate limit is also
per-task (as far as I know, will need to read into it a bit more) this
is probably fine.

~Gregory


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-21 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-10 21:37 Gregory Price
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 1/5] migrate: Allow migrate_misplaced_folio_prepare() to accept a NULL VMA Gregory Price
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 2/5] memory: move conditionally defined enums use inside ifdef tags Gregory Price
2024-12-27 10:34   ` Donet Tom
2024-12-27 15:42     ` Gregory Price
2024-12-29 14:49       ` Donet Tom
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 3/5] memory: allow non-fault migration in numa_migrate_check path Gregory Price
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 4/5] vmstat: add page-cache numa hints Gregory Price
2024-12-27 10:48   ` Donet Tom
2024-12-27 15:49     ` Gregory Price
2024-12-29 14:57       ` Donet Tom
2025-01-03 10:18   ` Donet Tom
2025-01-03 19:19     ` Gregory Price
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 5/5] migrate,sysfs: add pagecache promotion Gregory Price
2024-12-27 11:01   ` Donet Tom
2024-12-27 15:56     ` Gregory Price
2024-12-29 15:00       ` Donet Tom
2024-12-21  5:18 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 0/5] Promotion of Unmapped Page Cache Folios Huang, Ying
2024-12-21 14:48   ` Gregory Price [this message]
2024-12-22  7:09     ` Huang, Ying
2024-12-22 16:22       ` Gregory Price
2024-12-27  2:16         ` Huang, Ying
2024-12-27 15:40           ` Gregory Price
2024-12-27 19:09             ` Gregory Price
2024-12-28  3:38               ` Gregory Price
2024-12-31  7:32                 ` Gregory Price
2025-01-02  2:58                   ` Huang, Ying

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