From: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>
To: "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
nehagholkar@meta.com, abhishekd@meta.com, kernel-team@meta.com,
david@redhat.com, nphamcs@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, kbusch@meta.com
Subject: Re: [RFC v2 PATCH 0/5] Promotion of Unmapped Page Cache Folios.
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2024 09:48:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z2bVWWuGe0aiv-t_@gourry-fedora-PF4VCD3F> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o715r4vn.fsf@DESKTOP-5N7EMDA>
On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 01:18:04PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
> Gregory Price <gourry@gourry.net> writes:
>
> >
> > Single-reader DRAM: ~16.0-16.4s
> > Single-reader CXL (after demotion): ~16.8-17s
>
> The difference is trivial. This makes me thought that why we need this
> patchset?
>
That's 3-6% performance in this contrived case.
We're working to testing a real workload we know suffers from this
problem as it is long-running. Should be early in the new year hopefully.
> > Next we turned promotion on with only a single reader running.
> >
> > Before promotions:
> > Node 0 MemFree: 636478112 kB
> > Node 0 FilePages: 59009156 kB
> > Node 1 MemFree: 250336004 kB
> > Node 1 FilePages: 14979628 kB
>
> Why are there some many file pages on node 1 even if there're a lot of
> free pages on node 0? You moved some file pages from node 0 to node 1?
>
This was explicit and explained in the test notes:
First we ran with promotion disabled to show consistent overhead as
a result of forcing a file out to CXL memory. We first ran a single
reader to see uncontended performance, launched many readers to force
demotions, then dropped back to a single reader to observe.
The goal here was to simply demonstrate functionality and stability.
> > After promotions:
> > Node 0 MemFree: 632267268 kB
> > Node 0 FilePages: 72204968 kB
> > Node 1 MemFree: 262567056 kB
> > Node 1 FilePages: 2918768 kB
> >
> > Single-reader (after_promotion): ~16.5s
This represents a 2.5-6% speedup depending on the spread.
> >
> > numa_migrate_prep: 93 - time(3969867917) count(42576860)
> > migrate_misplaced_folio_prepare: 491 - time(3433174319) count(6985523)
> > migrate_misplaced_folio: 1635 - time(11426529980) count(6985523)
> >
> > Thoughts on a good throttling heuristic would be appreciated here.
>
> We do have a throttle mechanism already, for example, you can used
>
> $ echo 100 > /proc/sys/kernel/numa_balancing_promote_rate_limit_MBps
>
> to rate limit the promotion throughput under 100 MB/s for each DRAM
> node.
>
Can easily piggyback on that, just wasn't sure if overloading it was
an acceptable idea. Although since that promotion rate limit is also
per-task (as far as I know, will need to read into it a bit more) this
is probably fine.
~Gregory
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-21 14:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-12-10 21:37 Gregory Price
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 1/5] migrate: Allow migrate_misplaced_folio_prepare() to accept a NULL VMA Gregory Price
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 2/5] memory: move conditionally defined enums use inside ifdef tags Gregory Price
2024-12-27 10:34 ` Donet Tom
2024-12-27 15:42 ` Gregory Price
2024-12-29 14:49 ` Donet Tom
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 3/5] memory: allow non-fault migration in numa_migrate_check path Gregory Price
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 4/5] vmstat: add page-cache numa hints Gregory Price
2024-12-27 10:48 ` Donet Tom
2024-12-27 15:49 ` Gregory Price
2024-12-29 14:57 ` Donet Tom
2025-01-03 10:18 ` Donet Tom
2025-01-03 19:19 ` Gregory Price
2024-12-10 21:37 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 5/5] migrate,sysfs: add pagecache promotion Gregory Price
2024-12-27 11:01 ` Donet Tom
2024-12-27 15:56 ` Gregory Price
2024-12-29 15:00 ` Donet Tom
2024-12-21 5:18 ` [RFC v2 PATCH 0/5] Promotion of Unmapped Page Cache Folios Huang, Ying
2024-12-21 14:48 ` Gregory Price [this message]
2024-12-22 7:09 ` Huang, Ying
2024-12-22 16:22 ` Gregory Price
2024-12-27 2:16 ` Huang, Ying
2024-12-27 15:40 ` Gregory Price
2024-12-27 19:09 ` Gregory Price
2024-12-28 3:38 ` Gregory Price
2024-12-31 7:32 ` Gregory Price
2025-01-02 2:58 ` Huang, Ying
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