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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Shakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>
Cc: alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	andrii@kernel.org, memxor@gmail.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	peterz@infradead.org, vbabka@suse.cz, bigeasy@linutronix.de,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, houtao1@huawei.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	willy@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de, jannh@google.com,
	tj@kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v3 1/6] mm, bpf: Introduce try_alloc_pages() for opportunistic page allocation
Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2024 08:18:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z2PIva9w8OKW9yYv@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mnvsu2v4tnhhbzmebzg6mdmglcs3kq2nxqj2kz3v6p2eigcy6l@c5amf2pgd4zq>

On Wed 18-12-24 16:05:25, Shakeel Butt wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 12:32:20PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > I like this proposal better. I am still not convinced that we really
> > need internal __GFP_TRYLOCK though. 
> > 
> > If we reduce try_alloc_pages to the gfp usage we are at the following
> > 
> > On Tue 17-12-24 19:07:14, alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com wrote:
> > [...]
> > > +struct page *try_alloc_pages_noprof(int nid, unsigned int order)
> > > +{
> > > +	gfp_t alloc_gfp = __GFP_NOWARN | __GFP_ZERO |
> > > +			  __GFP_NOMEMALLOC | __GFP_TRYLOCK;
> > > +	unsigned int alloc_flags = ALLOC_TRYLOCK;
> > [...]
> > > +	prepare_alloc_pages(alloc_gfp, order, nid, NULL, &ac,
> > > +			    &alloc_gfp, &alloc_flags);
> > [...]
> > > +	page = get_page_from_freelist(alloc_gfp, order, alloc_flags, &ac);
> > > +
> > > +	/* Unlike regular alloc_pages() there is no __alloc_pages_slowpath(). */
> > > +
> > > +	trace_mm_page_alloc(page, order, alloc_gfp & ~__GFP_TRYLOCK, ac.migratetype);
> > > +	kmsan_alloc_page(page, order, alloc_gfp);
> > [...]
> > 
> > From those that care about __GFP_TRYLOCK only kmsan_alloc_page doesn't
> > have alloc_flags. Those could make the locking decision based on
> > ALLOC_TRYLOCK.
> > 
> > I am not familiar with kmsan internals and my main question is whether
> > this specific usecase really needs a dedicated reentrant
> > kmsan_alloc_page rather than rely on gfp flag to be sufficient.
> > Currently kmsan_in_runtime bails out early in some contexts. The
> > associated comment about hooks is not completely clear to me though.
> > Memory allocation down the road is one of those but it is not really
> > clear to me whether this is the only one.
> 
> Is the suggestion that just introduce and use ALLOC_TRYLOCK without the
> need of __GFP_TRYLOCK?

Exactly! Because ALLOC_$FOO is strictly internal allocator flag that
cannot leak out to external users by design. __GFP_TRYLOCK in this
implementation tries to achieve the same by hiding it which would work
but it is both ugly and likely unnecessary.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-19  7:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-18  3:07 [PATCH bpf-next v3 0/6] bpf, mm: Introduce try_alloc_pages() alexei.starovoitov
2024-12-18  3:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 1/6] mm, bpf: Introduce try_alloc_pages() for opportunistic page allocation alexei.starovoitov
2024-12-18 11:32   ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-19  0:05     ` Shakeel Butt
2024-12-19  7:18       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2024-12-19  1:18     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-19  7:13       ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-20  0:41         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-19  0:10   ` Shakeel Butt
2024-12-19  1:39     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-18  3:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 2/6] mm, bpf: Introduce free_pages_nolock() alexei.starovoitov
2024-12-18  4:58   ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-18  5:33     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-18  5:57       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-18  6:37         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-18  6:49           ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-18  7:25             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-18  7:40               ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-18 11:32   ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-19  1:45     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-19  7:03       ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-20  0:42         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-18  3:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 3/6] locking/local_lock: Introduce local_trylock_irqsave() alexei.starovoitov
2024-12-18  3:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 4/6] memcg: Use trylock to access memcg stock_lock alexei.starovoitov
2024-12-18 11:32   ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-19  1:53     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-19  7:08       ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-19  7:27         ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-19  7:52           ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-20  0:39             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-20  8:24               ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-20 16:10                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2024-12-20 19:45                   ` Shakeel Butt
2024-12-21  7:20                     ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-18  3:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 5/6] mm, bpf: Use memcg in try_alloc_pages() alexei.starovoitov
2024-12-18  3:07 ` [PATCH bpf-next v3 6/6] bpf: Use try_alloc_pages() to allocate pages for bpf needs alexei.starovoitov

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