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From: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
To: Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>
Cc: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>,
	Balbir Singh <balbirs@nvidia.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	hakeel Butt <shakeel.butt@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
	Nhat Pham <nphamcs@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] memcg: allow exiting tasks to write back data to swap
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 00:49:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z1uEp5lCGFQK4vFb@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241212150003.1a0ed845@fangorn>

On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 03:00:03PM -0500, Rik van Riel wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 18:31:57 +0000
> Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev> wrote:
> 
> > Is it about a single task or groups of tasks or the entire cgroup?
> > If former, why it's a problem? A tight memcg limit can slow things down
> > in general and I don't see why we should treat the exit() path differently.
> > 
> I think the exit path does need to be treated a little differently,
> since this exit may be the only way such a cgroup can free up memory.

It's true if all tasks in a cgroup are exiting. Otherwise there are
other options (at least in theory).

> 
> > If it's about the entire cgroup and we have essentially a deadlock,
> > I feel like we need to look into the oom reaper side.
> 
> You mean something like the below?
> 
> I have not tested it yet, because we don't have any stuck
> cgroups right now among the workloads that I'm monitoring.

Yeah, something like this...

Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-13  0:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-12 16:57 Rik van Riel
2024-12-12 17:06 ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-12 17:51   ` Shakeel Butt
2024-12-12 18:02     ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-12 18:18       ` Nhat Pham
2024-12-12 18:11   ` Nhat Pham
2024-12-12 18:30   ` Johannes Weiner
2024-12-12 21:35     ` Shakeel Butt
2024-12-12 21:41       ` Yosry Ahmed
2024-12-13  0:32     ` Roman Gushchin
2024-12-13  4:42       ` Johannes Weiner
2024-12-16 15:39     ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-14 16:09       ` Johannes Weiner
2025-01-14 16:46         ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-14 16:51           ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-14 17:00             ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-14 17:11               ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-14 18:13                 ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-14 19:23                   ` Johannes Weiner
2025-01-14 19:42                     ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-15 17:35                       ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-15 19:41                         ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-14 16:54           ` Michal Hocko
2025-01-14 16:56             ` Rik van Riel
2025-01-14 16:56             ` Michal Hocko
2024-12-12 18:31 ` Roman Gushchin
2024-12-12 20:00   ` Rik van Riel
2024-12-13  0:49     ` Roman Gushchin [this message]
2024-12-13  2:54     ` Balbir Singh

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