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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>
Cc: Matt Fleming <matt@readmodwrite.com>,
	willy@infradead.org, adilger.kernel@dilger.ca,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, luka.2016.cs@gmail.com, tytso@mit.edu,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>,
	kernel-team@cloudflare.com, Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Qi Zheng <zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Muchun Song <muchun.song@linux.dev>
Subject: Re: Potential Linux Crash: WARNING in ext4_dirty_folio in Linux kernel v6.13-rc5
Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2025 16:33:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z-6cS9Cg1eN0w6XL@tiehlicka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a751498e-0bde-4114-a9f3-9d3c755d8835@suse.cz>

On Thu 03-04-25 14:58:25, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 4/3/25 14:29, Matt Fleming wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 26, 2025 at 10:59 AM Matt Fleming <matt@readmodwrite.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi there,
> 
> + Cc also Michal
> 
> >> I'm also seeing this PF_MEMALLOC WARN triggered from kswapd in 6.12.19.
> 
> We're talking about __alloc_pages_slowpath() doing WARN_ON_ONCE(current-
> >flags & PF_MEMALLOC); for __GFP_NOFAIL allocations.
> 
> kswapd() sets:
> 
> tsk->flags |= PF_MEMALLOC | PF_KSWAPD;
> 
> so any __GFP_NOFAIL allocation done in the kswapd context risks this
> warning. It's also objectively bad IMHO because for direct reclaim we can
> loop and hope kswapd rescues us, but kswapd would then have to rely on
> direct reclaimers to get unstuck. I don't see an easy generic solution?

Right. I do not think NOFAIL request from the reclaim context is really
something we can commit to support. This really needs to be addressed on
the shrinker side.

> >> Does overlayfs need some kind of background inode reclaim support?
> > 
> > Hey everyone, I know there was some off-list discussion last week at
> > LSFMM, but I don't think a definite solution has been proposed for the
> > below stacktrace.
> > 
> > What is the shrinker API policy wrt memory allocation and I/O? Should
> > overlayfs do something more like XFS and background reclaim to avoid
> > GFP_NOFAIL
> > allocations when kswapd is shrinking caches?
> > 
> >>   Call Trace:
> >>    <TASK>
> >>    __alloc_pages_noprof+0x31c/0x330
> >>    alloc_pages_mpol_noprof+0xe3/0x1d0
> >>    folio_alloc_noprof+0x5b/0xa0
> >>    __filemap_get_folio+0x1f3/0x380
> >>    __getblk_slow+0xa3/0x1e0
> >>    __ext4_get_inode_loc+0x121/0x4b0
> >>    ext4_get_inode_loc+0x40/0xa0
> >>    ext4_reserve_inode_write+0x39/0xc0
> >>    __ext4_mark_inode_dirty+0x5b/0x220
> >>    ext4_evict_inode+0x26d/0x690
> >>    evict+0x112/0x2a0
> >>    __dentry_kill+0x71/0x180
> >>    dput+0xeb/0x1b0
> >>    ovl_stack_put+0x2e/0x50 [overlay]
> >>    ovl_destroy_inode+0x3a/0x60 [overlay]
> >>    destroy_inode+0x3b/0x70
> >>    __dentry_kill+0x71/0x180
> >>    shrink_dentry_list+0x6b/0xe0
> >>    prune_dcache_sb+0x56/0x80
> >>    super_cache_scan+0x12c/0x1e0
> >>    do_shrink_slab+0x13b/0x350
> >>    shrink_slab+0x278/0x3a0
> >>    shrink_node+0x328/0x880
> >>    balance_pgdat+0x36d/0x740
> >>    kswapd+0x1f0/0x380
> >>    kthread+0xd2/0x100
> >>    ret_from_fork+0x34/0x50
> >>    ret_from_fork_asm+0x1a/0x30
> >>    </TASK>
> > 

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-03 14:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-06  2:42 Luka
2025-03-06  5:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-03-26 10:59   ` Matt Fleming
2025-04-03 12:29     ` Matt Fleming
2025-04-03 12:58       ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-03 14:33         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2025-04-03 17:12       ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-03 19:32         ` James Bottomley
2025-04-04  9:09         ` Vlastimil Babka
2025-04-04 13:50           ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-04-07 23:00         ` Dave Chinner

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