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From: Yeoreum Yun <yeoreum.yun@arm.com>
To: Tong Tiangen <tongtiangen@huawei.com>
Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
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	Guohanjun <guohanjun@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 2/5] arm64: add support for ARCH_HAS_COPY_MC
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2025 17:06:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z+bXE7UNWFLEfhQC@e129823.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <df40840d-e860-397d-60bd-02f4b2d0b433@huawei.com>

Hi,

>
>
> 在 2025/2/13 0:21, Catalin Marinas 写道:
> > (catching up with old threads)
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 09, 2024 at 10:42:54AM +0800, Tong Tiangen wrote:
> > > For the arm64 kernel, when it processes hardware memory errors for
> > > synchronize notifications(do_sea()), if the errors is consumed within the
> > > kernel, the current processing is panic. However, it is not optimal.
> > >
> > > Take copy_from/to_user for example, If ld* triggers a memory error, even in
> > > kernel mode, only the associated process is affected. Killing the user
> > > process and isolating the corrupt page is a better choice.
> >
> > I agree that killing the user process and isolating the page is a better
> > choice but I don't see how the latter happens after this patch. Which
> > page would be isolated?
>
> The SEA is triggered when the page with hardware error is read. After
> that, the page is isolated in memory_failure() (mf). The processing of
> mf is mentioned in the comments of do_sea().
>
> /*
>  * APEI claimed this as a firmware-first notification.
>  * Some processing deferred to task_work before ret_to_user().
>  */
>
> Some processing include mf.
>
> >
> > > Add new fixup type EX_TYPE_KACCESS_ERR_ZERO_MEM_ERR to identify insn
> > > that can recover from memory errors triggered by access to kernel memory,
> > > and this fixup type is used in __arch_copy_to_user(), This make the regular
> > > copy_to_user() will handle kernel memory errors.
> >
> > Is the assumption that the error on accessing kernel memory is
> > transient? There's no way to isolate the kernel page and also no point
> > in isolating the destination page either.
>
> Yes, it's transient, the kernel page in mf can't be isolated, the
> transient access (ld) of this kernel page is currently expected to kill
> the user-mode process to avoid error spread.

I'm not sure about how this works.
IIUC, the memory_failure() wouldn't kill any process if page which
raises sea is kernel page (because this wasn't mapped).

But, to mark the kernel page as posision, I think it also need to call
apei_claim_sea() in !user_mode().
What about calling the apei_claim_sea() when fix_exception_me()
successed only in !user_mode() case?

Thanks.
>
> The SEA processes synchronization errors. Only hardware errors on the
> source page can be detected (Through synchronous ld insn) and processed.
> The destination page cannot be processed.
>
> >
>


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-03-28 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-09  2:42 [PATCH v13 0/5]arm64: add ARCH_HAS_COPY_MC support Tong Tiangen
2024-12-09  2:42 ` [PATCH v13 1/5] uaccess: add generic fallback version of copy_mc_to_user() Tong Tiangen
2024-12-09  2:42 ` [PATCH v13 2/5] arm64: add support for ARCH_HAS_COPY_MC Tong Tiangen
2025-02-12 16:21   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-14  1:44     ` Tong Tiangen
2025-03-24 16:54       ` Luck, Tony
2025-04-03  2:48         ` Tong Tiangen
2025-03-28 17:06       ` Yeoreum Yun [this message]
2025-04-03  2:36         ` Tong Tiangen
2024-12-09  2:42 ` [PATCH v13 3/5] mm/hwpoison: return -EFAULT when copy fail in copy_mc_[user]_highpage() Tong Tiangen
2024-12-09  2:42 ` [PATCH v13 4/5] arm64: support copy_mc_[user]_highpage() Tong Tiangen
2025-02-12 17:11   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-14  1:45     ` Tong Tiangen
2025-02-14  2:49     ` Tong Tiangen
2025-02-14 17:24       ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-17  8:07         ` Tong Tiangen
2025-02-17 14:55           ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-18 11:51             ` Tong Tiangen
2025-02-18 19:42               ` Catalin Marinas
2025-03-04 14:10                 ` Tong Tiangen
2024-12-09  2:42 ` [PATCH v13 5/5] arm64: introduce copy_mc_to_kernel() implementation Tong Tiangen
2025-02-12 17:18   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-02-14  2:57     ` Tong Tiangen

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