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From: Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok_raj@linux.intel.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>, <x86@kernel.org>,
	Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
	Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
	Alexander Potapenko <glider@google.com>,
	"Taras Madan" <tarasmadan@google.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	"H . J . Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>, Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv8 00/11] Linear Address Masking enabling
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2022 10:29:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YytJ+VbOrZ/gaWmS@araj-MOBL2.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f1aac14e-380c-f76f-84bb-fdff56207d2f@intel.com>

On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 10:11:46AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 9/21/22 10:08, Ashok Raj wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 09:57:47AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> >> On 9/15/22 10:28, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:> +	/* Serialize against
> >> address tagging enabling *
> >>> +	if (mmap_write_lock_killable(mm))
> >>> +		return -EINTR;
> >>> +
> >>> +	if (!arch_can_alloc_pasid(mm)) {
> >>> +		mmap_write_unlock(mm);
> >>> +		return -EBUSY;
> >>> +	}
> >> Shouldn't this actually be some kind of *device* check?
> > The device will enable svm only when its capable of it, and performs all
> > the normal capability checks like PASID, ATS etc before enabling it.
> > This is the final step before the mm is hooked up with the IOMMU.
> 
> What does that mean, though?
> 
> Are you saying that any device compatibility with an mm is solely
> determined by the IOMMU in play, so the IOMMU code should host the mm
> compatibility checks?
> 

To check if a device supports SVM like capabilities it needs to support
the following PCIe capabilities.

- PASID
- Page Request Interface (PRI) for dynamic page-faulting
- ATS - For quick VA->PA lookups.

The device purely works only with memory addresses and caches them in
its device TLB after a lookup via ATS. 

When device does ATS, it sends a translation request, and IOMMU will
walk the page-tables to give the PA back. It can use it until it gets an
invalidation. 

So the device doesn't need to know page-table formats. but if you use
tagged pointers its something you want to check device support for it. I
don't think there is any plans right now to support something like the
following.

- Check device ability to work with tagged pointers.
- OS should configure the width to ignore etc
- Device TLB's properly handle the tagged portion without creating
  aliasing etc.

In order for LAM and SVM to play nicely you need 

#1 IOMMU support for tagged pointers 
#2 Device ability to handle tagged pointers. 

#2 above is an additional check to perform in addition to PASID,PRI,ATS
   checks we do today.

Cheers,
Ashok


  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-21 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-30  1:00 Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 01/11] x86/mm: Fix CR3_ADDR_MASK Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 02/11] x86: CPUID and CR3/CR4 flags for Linear Address Masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 03/11] mm: Pass down mm_struct to untagged_addr() Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 04/11] x86/mm: Handle LAM on context switch Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 05/11] x86/uaccess: Provide untagged_addr() and remove tags before address check Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:00 ` [PATCHv8 06/11] x86/mm: Provide arch_prctl() interface for LAM Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 07/11] x86: Expose untagging mask in /proc/$PID/arch_status Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 08/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add malloc and tag-bits test cases for linear-address masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 09/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add mmap and SYSCALL " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-07  3:19   ` Robert Hoo
2022-09-09 11:24     ` Zhang, Weihong
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 10/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add io_uring " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30  1:01 ` [PATCHv8 11/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add inherit " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-01 17:45 ` [PATCHv8 00/11] Linear Address Masking enabling Ashok Raj
2022-09-04  0:39   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-09 16:08     ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-12 20:39       ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-12 21:41         ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-12 22:55           ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-13  0:06             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13  0:23           ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-12 22:49     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13  0:08       ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-13  0:18         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 14:45       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 15:11         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-14 15:18           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 15:31             ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-14 15:45               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 23:51                 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-15  9:01                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-15 17:28                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-20 13:14                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 14:57                         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-20 16:06                         ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-20 16:27                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 18:41                             ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-20 18:50                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 20:44                                 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-21  0:01                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21  9:36                       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-21 16:57                       ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-21 17:08                         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-21 17:11                           ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-21 17:29                             ` Ashok Raj [this message]
2022-09-21 18:11                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23  0:42                               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-23  5:27                                 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23  9:38                                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-23 11:46                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:18                                       ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 14:42                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:59                                           ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 15:28                                         ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 15:31                                           ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 15:44                                             ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 16:23                                               ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 16:44                                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-04  1:00 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05  5:05   ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-05 13:44     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05 14:30       ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-05 15:35         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05 15:46           ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-05 16:47             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-06  8:39               ` Peter Zijlstra

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