From: Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
To: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Cc: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Ashok Raj <ashok_raj@linux.intel.com>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, <x86@kernel.org>,
Kostya Serebryany <kcc@google.com>,
Andrey Ryabinin <ryabinin.a.a@gmail.com>,
Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com>,
"Alexander Potapenko" <glider@google.com>,
Taras Madan <tarasmadan@google.com>,
"Dmitry Vyukov" <dvyukov@google.com>,
"H . J . Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
Rick Edgecombe <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv8 00/11] Linear Address Masking enabling
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 08:44:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yy3UWTLdIldKIfgu@araj-MOBL2.amr.corp.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c3fb5e4f-a906-bdee-7b34-533f36ba59f7@intel.com>
On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 08:31:13AM -0700, Dave Hansen wrote:
> On 9/23/22 08:28, Ashok Raj wrote:
> >>
> >> I thought devices also cached address translation responses from the
> >> IOMMU and stashed them in their own device-local TLB. If the device is
> >> unaware of the tags, then how does device TLB invalidation work? Would
> > This is coming a full circle now :-)
> >
> > Since the device doesn't understand tagging, SVM and tagging aren't
> > compatible. If you need SVM, you can only send sanitized pointers to the
> > device period. In fact our page-request even looks for canonical checks
> > before doing the page-faulting.
> >
> >> all device TLB flushes be full flushes of the devices TLB? If something
> >> tried to use single-address invalidation, it would need to invalidate
> >> every possible tag alias because the device wouldn't know that the tags
> >> *are* tags instead of actual virtual addresses.
> > Once tagging is extended into the PCI SIG, and devices know to work with
> > them, so will the IOMMU, then they can all play in the same field. Until
> > then they are isolated, or let SVM only work with untagged VA's.
>
> But, the point that Kirill and I were getting at is still that devices
> *have* a role to play here. The idea that this can be hidden at the
> IOMMU layer is pure fantasy. Right?
If you *can't* send tagged memory to the device, what is the
role the device need to play?
For now you can only send proper VA's that are canonical.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-23 15:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-08-30 1:00 Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30 1:00 ` [PATCHv8 01/11] x86/mm: Fix CR3_ADDR_MASK Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30 1:00 ` [PATCHv8 02/11] x86: CPUID and CR3/CR4 flags for Linear Address Masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30 1:00 ` [PATCHv8 03/11] mm: Pass down mm_struct to untagged_addr() Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30 1:00 ` [PATCHv8 04/11] x86/mm: Handle LAM on context switch Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30 1:00 ` [PATCHv8 05/11] x86/uaccess: Provide untagged_addr() and remove tags before address check Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30 1:00 ` [PATCHv8 06/11] x86/mm: Provide arch_prctl() interface for LAM Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30 1:01 ` [PATCHv8 07/11] x86: Expose untagging mask in /proc/$PID/arch_status Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30 1:01 ` [PATCHv8 08/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add malloc and tag-bits test cases for linear-address masking Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30 1:01 ` [PATCHv8 09/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add mmap and SYSCALL " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-07 3:19 ` Robert Hoo
2022-09-09 11:24 ` Zhang, Weihong
2022-08-30 1:01 ` [PATCHv8 10/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add io_uring " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-08-30 1:01 ` [PATCHv8 11/11] selftests/x86/lam: Add inherit " Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-01 17:45 ` [PATCHv8 00/11] Linear Address Masking enabling Ashok Raj
2022-09-04 0:39 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-09 16:08 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-12 20:39 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-12 21:41 ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-12 22:55 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-13 0:06 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13 0:23 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-12 22:49 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-13 0:08 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-13 0:18 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 14:45 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 15:11 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-14 15:18 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 15:31 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-14 15:45 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-14 23:51 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-15 9:01 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-15 17:28 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-20 13:14 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 14:57 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-20 16:06 ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-20 16:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 18:41 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-20 18:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-20 20:44 ` Jacob Pan
2022-09-21 0:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-21 9:36 ` Tian, Kevin
2022-09-21 16:57 ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-21 17:08 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-21 17:11 ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-21 17:29 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-21 18:11 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 0:42 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-23 5:27 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 9:38 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-23 11:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:18 ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 14:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-23 14:59 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 15:28 ` Ashok Raj
2022-09-23 15:31 ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 15:44 ` Ashok Raj [this message]
2022-09-23 16:23 ` Dave Hansen
2022-09-23 16:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-09-04 1:00 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05 5:05 ` Bharata B Rao
2022-09-05 13:44 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05 14:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-05 15:35 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-05 15:46 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-09-05 16:47 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2022-09-06 8:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
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