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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Patrick Daly <quic_pdaly@quicinc.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
Subject: Re: Race condition in build_all_zonelists() when offlining movable zone
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 15:57:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YwTc0j0+wgZrF7Kv@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <37031749-ff57-2f90-5c90-f16473f31e37@redhat.com>

On Tue 23-08-22 15:50:23, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 23.08.22 15:25, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Tue 23-08-22 13:58:50, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 02:18:27PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >>> On Tue 23-08-22 12:09:46, Mel Gorman wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 12:34:09PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >>>>>> @@ -6553,7 +6576,7 @@ static void __build_all_zonelists(void *data)
> >>>>>>  #endif
> >>>>>>  	}
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>> -	spin_unlock(&lock);
> >>>>>> +	write_sequnlock(&zonelist_update_seq);
> >>>>>>  }
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>>  static noinline void __init
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> LGTM. The "retry_cpuset" label might deserve a better name now.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Good point ...  "restart"?
> >>>>
> >>>>> Would
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fixes: 6aa303defb74 ("mm, vmscan: only allocate and reclaim from zones
> >>>>> with pages managed by the buddy allocator")
> >>>>>
> >>>>> be correct?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Not specifically because the bug is due to a zone being completely removed
> >>>> resulting in a rebuild. This race probably existed ever since memory
> >>>> hotremove could theoritically remove a complete zone. A Cc: Stable would
> >>>> be appropriate as it'll apply with fuzz back to at least 5.4.210 but beyond
> >>>> that, it should be driven by a specific bug report showing that hot-remove
> >>>> of a full zone was possible and triggered the race.
> >>>
> >>> I do not think so. 6aa303defb74 has changed the zonelist building and
> >>> changed the check from pfn range (populated) to managed (with a memory).
> >>
> >> I'm not 100% convinced. The present_pages should have been the spanned range
> >> minus any holes that exist in the zone. If the zone is completely removed,
> >> the span should be zero meaning present and managed are both zero. No? 
> > 
> > IIRC, and David will correct me if I am mixing this up. The difference
> > is that zonelists are rebuilt during memory offlining and that is when
> > managed pages are removed from the allocator. Zone itself still has that
> > physical range populated and so this patch would have made a difference.
> 
> To recap, memory offlining adjusts managed+present pages of the zone
> essentially in one go. If after the adjustments, the zone is no longer
> populated (present==0), we rebuild the zone lists.
> 
> Once that's done, we try shrinking the zone (start+spanned pages) --
> which results in zone_start_pfn == 0 if there are no more pages. That
> happens *after* rebuilding the zonelists via remove_pfn_range_from_zone().
> 
> 
> Note that populated_zone() checks for present_pages. The actual zone
> span (e.g., spanned_pages) is a different story and not of interest when
> building zones or wanting to allocate memory.
> 
> > 
> > Now, you are right that this is likely possible even without that commit
> > but it is highly unlikely because physical hotremove is a very rare
> > operation and the race window would be so large that it would be likely
> > unfeasible.
> 
> I think I agree that 6aa303defb74 is most likely not the origin of this.
> It could only have been the origin in weird corner cases where we
> actually succeed offlining one memory block (adjust present+managed) and
> end up with managed=0 and present!=0 -- which barely happens in
> practice: especially for ZONE_MOVABLE. (yeah, there is memory ballooning
> that adjusts managed pages dynamically and might provoke such a
> situation on ZONE_MOVABLE)

OK, thanks for the correction David. Then I would agree that Fixes tag
could be more confusing than helpful and your above summary would be a
great part of the changelog.

Thanks!
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-23 13:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-17  3:42 Patrick Daly
     [not found] ` <YvyM1AWeJRt6PF9B@dhcp22.suse.cz>
     [not found]   ` <YvyRvxO+FHMyuGn3@dhcp22.suse.cz>
     [not found]     ` <20220817104028.uin7cmkb4qlpgfbi@suse.de>
     [not found]       ` <YvzI0PHW6uojk+N1@dhcp22.suse.cz>
     [not found]         ` <20220817112647.z7wenwjpyt3hphtk@suse.de>
2022-08-19  2:11           ` Patrick Daly
2022-08-22 20:18           ` Patrick Daly
2022-08-23  6:36       ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]         ` <20220823083349.5c2aolc6xgfhp3k7@suse.de>
2022-08-23  8:52           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-23  9:49             ` Mel Gorman
2022-08-23 10:34               ` David Hildenbrand
     [not found]                 ` <20220823110946.o3eawk3kghaykcim@suse.de>
2022-08-23 12:18                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <20220823125850.o3nhkmikmv7vyxq4@suse.de>
2022-08-23 13:25                       ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-23 13:50                         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-23 13:57                           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-08-23 15:14                             ` Mel Gorman
2022-08-23 15:38                               ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-23 15:51                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-24  9:45                                   ` Mel Gorman

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