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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Kairui Song <ryncsn@gmail.com>
Cc: cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mm: memcontrol: remove mem_cgroup_kmem_disabled
Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 09:12:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yw24cFGTtOZF7Cgw@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMgjq7A+Ju247rC7+fo9jcZpK8rkd0Ou6e=7qzgL4rV3JWBX5w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue 30-08-22 15:06:57, Kairui Song wrote:
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> 于2022年8月30日周二 14:45写道:
> >
> > On Tue 30-08-22 13:59:48, Kairui Song wrote:
> > > From: Kairui Song <kasong@tencent.com>
> > >
> > > There are currently two helpers for checking if cgroup kmem
> > > accounting is enabled:
> > >
> > > - mem_cgroup_kmem_disabled
> > > - memcg_kmem_enabled
> >
> > Yes, this is a bit confusing indeed!
> >
> > > mem_cgroup_kmem_disabled is a simple helper that returns true if
> > > cgroup.memory=nokmem is specified, otherwise returns false.
> > >
> > > memcg_kmem_enabled is a bit different, it returns true if
> > > cgroup.memory=nokmem is not specified and there is at least one
> > > non-root cgroup ever created. And once there is any non-root memcg
> > > created, it won't go back to return false again.
> > >
> > > This may help improve performance for some corner use cases where
> > > the user enables memory cgroup and kmem accounting globally but never
> > > create any cgroup.
> > >
> > > Considering that corner case is rare, especially nowadays cgroup is
> > > widely used as a standard way to organize services.
> >
> > Is it really that rare? Most configurations would use a default setup, so
> > both MEMCG enabled and without nokmem on cmd line yet the memory
> > controller is not enabled in their setups.
> 
> Actually I don't have too much confidence saying that as well... but
> AFAIK, almost all distros will create a few sub cgroup on boot by the
> init (eg. openrc, finit, systemd).

Yeah, but do they enable the memory controller as well? Unless I am
missing something this will require at least one memcg enabled cgroup to
be created.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-30  7:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-30  5:59 [PATCH 0/2] mm: memcontrol: cleanup and optimize for accounting params Kairui Song
2022-08-30  5:59 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: memcontrol: remove mem_cgroup_kmem_disabled Kairui Song
2022-08-30  6:44   ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-30  7:06     ` Kairui Song
2022-08-30  7:12       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-08-30  7:45         ` Kairui Song
2022-08-30 18:03   ` kernel test robot
2022-08-30  5:59 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: memcontrol: make cgroup_memory_noswap a static key Kairui Song
2022-08-30  7:01   ` Michal Hocko
2022-08-30  8:50     ` Kairui Song
2022-08-30 10:12       ` Michal Hocko

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