linux-mm.kvack.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Peter Feiner <pfeiner@google.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 2/2] mm/hugetlb: support write-faults in shared mappings
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 15:29:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YvQHKCylnFjgkFtw@xz-m1.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <12c65d91-5fc0-cb2e-c415-2b3447960b43@redhat.com>

On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 11:37:13AM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> On 09.08.22 00:08, Peter Xu wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 04:21:39PM -0400, Peter Xu wrote:
> >> On Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 06:25:21PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> >>>>> Relying on VM_SHARED to detect MAP_PRIVATE vs. MAP_SHARED is
> >>>>> unfortunately wrong.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you're curious, take a look at f83a275dbc5c ("mm: account for
> >>>>> MAP_SHARED mappings using VM_MAYSHARE and not VM_SHARED in hugetlbfs")
> >>>>> and mmap() code.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Long story short: if the file is read-only, we only have VM_MAYSHARE but
> >>>>> not VM_SHARED (and consequently also not VM_MAYWRITE).
> >>>>
> >>>> To ask in another way: if file is RO but mapped RW (mmap() will have
> >>>> VM_SHARED cleared but VM_MAYSHARE set), then if we check VM_MAYSHARE here
> >>>> won't we grant write bit errornously while we shouldn't? As the user
> >>>> doesn't really have write permission to the file.
> >>>
> >>> Thus the VM_WRITE check. :)
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if we should just do it cleanly and introduce the maybe_mkwrite
> >>> semantics here as well. Then there is no need for additional VM_WRITE
> >>> checks and hugetlb will work just like !hugetlb.
> >>
> >> Hmm yeah I think the VM_MAYSHARE check is correct, since we'll need to fail
> >> the cases where MAYSHARE && !SHARE - we used to silently let it pass.
> > 
> > Sorry I think this is a wrong statement I made..  IIUC we'll fail correctly
> > with/without the patch on any write to hugetlb RO regions.
> > 
> > Then I just don't see a difference on checking VM_SHARED or VM_MAYSHARE
> > here, it's just that VM_MAYSHARE check should work too like VM_SHARED so I
> > don't see a problem.
> > 
> > It also means I can't think of any valid case of having VM_WRITE when
> > reaching here, then the WARN_ON_ONCE() is okay but maybe also redundant.
> > Using maybe_mkwrite() seems misleading to me if FOLL_FORCE not ready for
> > hugetlbfs after all.
> > 
> 
> The main reason we'd have it would be to scream out lout and fail
> gracefully if someone would -- for example -- use it for something like
> FOLL_FORCE.

Having that WARN_ON_ONCE() is okay to me, but just to double check we're on
the same page: why there's concern on using FOLL_FORCE? IIUC we're talking
about shared mappings here, then no FOLL_FORCE possible at all?  IOW,
"!is_cow_mapping()" should fail in check_vma_flags() already.

The other thing is I'm wondering whether patch 2 should be postponed anyway
so that we can wait for a full resolution of the problem from Mike.

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu



  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-08-10 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-05 11:03 [PATCH v1 0/2] mm/hugetlb: fix write-fault handling for " David Hildenbrand
2022-08-05 11:03 ` [PATCH v1 1/2] mm/hugetlb: fix hugetlb not supporting write-notify David Hildenbrand
2022-08-05 18:14   ` Peter Xu
2022-08-05 18:22     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-05 18:23     ` Mike Kravetz
2022-08-05 18:25       ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-05 18:33         ` Mike Kravetz
2022-08-05 18:57           ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-05 20:48             ` Mike Kravetz
2022-08-05 23:13               ` Peter Xu
2022-08-05 23:33                 ` Mike Kravetz
2022-08-08 16:10                   ` Peter Xu
2022-08-08 16:36                 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-08 19:28                   ` Peter Xu
2022-08-10  9:29                     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-05 11:03 ` [PATCH v1 2/2] mm/hugetlb: support write-faults in shared mappings David Hildenbrand
2022-08-05 18:12   ` Peter Xu
2022-08-05 18:20     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-08 16:05       ` Peter Xu
2022-08-08 16:25         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-08 20:21           ` Peter Xu
2022-08-08 22:08             ` Peter Xu
2022-08-10  9:37               ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10  9:45                 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10 19:29                 ` Peter Xu [this message]
2022-08-10 19:40                   ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-10 19:52                     ` Peter Xu
2022-08-10 23:55                       ` Mike Kravetz
2022-08-11  8:48                         ` David Hildenbrand
2022-08-05 23:08     ` Mike Kravetz

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=YvQHKCylnFjgkFtw@xz-m1.local \
    --to=peterx@redhat.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=david@redhat.com \
    --cc=kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mike.kravetz@oracle.com \
    --cc=pfeiner@google.com \
    --cc=songmuchun@bytedance.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox