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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: vmpressure: don't count userspace-induced reclaim as memory pressure
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2022 18:37:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YrSWruhPlJV1X9kp@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkadsLOV7GMFAm+naX4Y1WpZ-4=NkAhAMxNw60iaRPWx=w@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu 23-06-22 09:22:35, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 2:43 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu 23-06-22 01:35:59, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
[...]
> > > In our internal version of memory.reclaim that we recently upstreamed,
> > > we do not account vmpressure during proactive reclaim (similar to how
> > > psi is handled upstream). We want to make sure this behavior also
> > > exists in the upstream version so that consolidating them does not
> > > break our users who rely on vmpressure and will start seeing increased
> > > pressure due to proactive reclaim.
> >
> > These are good reasons to have this patch in your tree. But why is this
> > patch benefitial for the upstream kernel? It clearly adds some code and
> > some special casing which will add a maintenance overhead.
> 
> It is not just Google, any existing vmpressure users will start seeing
> false pressure notifications with memory.reclaim. The main goal of the
> patch is to make sure memory.reclaim does not break pre-existing users
> of vmpressure, and doing it in a way that is consistent with psi makes
> sense.

memory.reclaim is v2 only feature which doesn't have vmpressure
interface. So I do not see how pre-existing users of the upstream kernel
can see any breakage.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-23 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-23  0:05 Yosry Ahmed
2022-06-23  0:16 ` Andrew Morton
2022-06-23  0:24   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-06-23  8:05 ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-23  8:35   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-06-23  9:42     ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-23 16:22       ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-06-23 16:37         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-06-23 16:42           ` Shakeel Butt
2022-06-23 16:49             ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-06-23 17:04             ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-23 17:26               ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-06-24 22:10                 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-06-24 22:13                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-06-24 22:41                     ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-06-27  8:25                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-27  8:39                   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-06-27  9:20                     ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-27  9:39                       ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-06-27 12:31                         ` Michal Hocko
2022-06-27 17:03                           ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-06-30  1:07                             ` Shakeel Butt
2022-06-30  2:08                               ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-06-30  8:22                                 ` Michal Hocko

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