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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Tong Tiangen <tongtiangen@huawei.com>
Cc: James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
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	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Xie XiuQi <xiexiuqi@huawei.com>, Guohanjun <guohanjun@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next v5 7/8] arm64: add uaccess to machine check safe
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2022 12:35:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yq24TSpZK+3/86Pj@FVFF77S0Q05N> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a26c74eb-76c2-570a-2f82-503c812dc0f0@huawei.com>

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022 at 05:27:45PM +0800, Tong Tiangen wrote:
> 
> 
> 在 2022/6/17 17:06, Mark Rutland 写道:
> > On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 06:50:55AM +0000, Tong Tiangen wrote:
> > > If user access fail due to hardware memory error, only the relevant
> > > processes are affected, so killing the user process and isolate the
> > > error page with hardware memory errors is a more reasonable choice
> > > than kernel panic.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Tong Tiangen <tongtiangen@huawei.com>
> > 
> > > ---
> > >   arch/arm64/lib/copy_from_user.S | 8 ++++----
> > >   arch/arm64/lib/copy_to_user.S   | 8 ++++----
> > 
> > All of these changes are to the *kernel* accesses performed as part of copy
> > to/from user, and have nothing to do with userspace, so it does not make sense
> > to mark these as UACCESS.
> 
> You have a point. so there is no need to modify copy_from/to_user.S in this
> patch set.

Cool, thanks. If this patch just has the extable change, that's fine by me.

> > Do we *actually* need to recover from failues on these accesses? Looking at
> > _copy_from_user(), the kernel will immediately follow this up with a memset()
> > to the same address which will be fatal anyway, so this is only punting the
> > failure for a few instructions.
> 
> If recovery success, The task will be killed and there will be no subsequent
> memset().

I don't think that's true.

IIUC per the last patch, in the exception handler we'll apply the fixup then
force a signal. That doesn't kill the task immediately, and we'll return from
the exception handler back into the original context (with the fixup applied).

The structure of copy_from_user() is 

	copy_from_user(to, from, n) {
		_copy_from_user(to, from, n) {
			res = n;
			res = raw_copy_from_user(to, from, n);
			if (res) 
				memset(to + (n - res), 0, res);
		}
	}

So when the fixup is applied and res indicates that the copy terminated early,
there is an unconditinal memset() before the fatal signal is handled in the
return to userspace path.

> > If we really need to recover from certain accesses to kernel memory we should
> > add a new EX_TYPE_KACCESS_ERR_ZERO_MC or similar, but we need a strong
> > rationale as to why that's useful. As things stand I do not beleive it makes
> > sense for copy to/from user specifically.

[...]

> > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/mm/extable.c b/arch/arm64/mm/extable.c
> > > index c301dcf6335f..8ca8d9639f9f 100644
> > > --- a/arch/arm64/mm/extable.c
> > > +++ b/arch/arm64/mm/extable.c
> > > @@ -86,10 +86,10 @@ bool fixup_exception_mc(struct pt_regs *regs)
> > >   	if (!ex)
> > >   		return false;
> > > -	/*
> > > -	 * This is not complete, More Machine check safe extable type can
> > > -	 * be processed here.
> > > -	 */
> > > +	switch (ex->type) {
> > > +	case EX_TYPE_UACCESS_ERR_ZERO:
> > > +		return ex_handler_uaccess_err_zero(ex, regs);
> > > +	}
> > 
> > This addition specifically makes sense to me, so can you split this into a separate patch?
> 
> According to my understanding of the above, only the modification of
> extable.c is retained.
> 
> So what do you mean which part is made into a separate patch?

As above, if you just retain the extable.c changes, that's fine by me.

Thanks,
Mark.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-18 11:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-28  6:50 [PATCH -next v5 0/8]arm64: add machine check safe support Tong Tiangen
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 1/8] arm64: extable: add new extable type EX_TYPE_KACCESS_ERR_ZERO support Tong Tiangen
2022-06-17  8:23   ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-18  2:44     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 2/8] arm64: extable: make uaaccess helper use extable type EX_TYPE_UACCESS_ERR_ZERO Tong Tiangen
2022-06-17  8:24   ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-18  3:26     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-18  8:42       ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-18 12:40         ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-20  2:59           ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-20  9:10             ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-20 13:32               ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-20 14:13               ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-20 14:26                 ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 3/8] arm64: extable: move _cond_extable to _cond_uaccess_extable Tong Tiangen
2022-06-17  8:31   ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 4/8] arm64: extable: cleanup redundant extable type EX_TYPE_FIXUP Tong Tiangen
2022-06-17  8:43   ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 5/8] Add generic fallback version of copy_mc_to_user() Tong Tiangen
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 6/8] arm64: add support for machine check error safe Tong Tiangen
2022-06-17  8:55   ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-18  9:18     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-18 12:52       ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-20  1:53         ` Tong Tiangen
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 7/8] arm64: add uaccess to machine check safe Tong Tiangen
2022-06-17  9:06   ` Mark Rutland
2022-06-18  9:27     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-06-18 11:35       ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2022-06-20  2:04         ` Tong Tiangen
2022-05-28  6:50 ` [PATCH -next v5 8/8] arm64: add cow " Tong Tiangen

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