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From: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	syzbot <syzbot+acf65ca584991f3cc447@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	llvm@lists.linux.dev, nathan@kernel.org, ndesaulniers@google.com,
	syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com, trix@redhat.com,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [syzbot] WARNING in follow_hugetlb_page
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 16:25:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YogjUl1IshuqVkjs@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0be9132d-a928-9ebe-a9cf-6d140b907d59@nvidia.com>

On Fri, May 20, 2022 at 03:56:31PM -0700, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 5/20/22 15:19, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > The memory offline would be an issue so we shouldn't allow pinning of any
> > pages in *movable zone*.
> > 
> > Isn't alloc_contig_range just best effort? Then, it wouldn't be a big
> > problem to allow pinning on those area. The matter is what target range
> > on alloc_contig_range is backed by CMA or movable zone and usecases.
> > 
> > IOW, movable zone should be never allowed. But CMA case, if pages
> > are used by normal process memory instead of hugeTLB, we shouldn't
> > allow longterm pinning since someone can claim those memory suddenly.
> > However, we are fine to allow longterm pinning if the CMA memory
> > already claimed and mapped at userspace(hugeTLB case IIUC).
> > 
> 
> From Mike's comments and yours, plus a rather quick reading of some
> CMA-related code in mm/hugetlb.c (free_gigantic_page(),
> alloc_gigantic_pages()), the following seems true:
> 
> a) hugetlbfs can allocate pages *from* CMA, via cma_alloc()
> 
> b) while hugetlbfs is using those CMA-allocated pages, it is debatable
> whether those pages should be allowed to be long term pinned. That's
> because there are two cases:
> 
>     Case 1: pages are longterm pinned, then released, all while
>             owned by hugetlbfs. No problem.
> 
>     Case 2: pages are longterm pinned, but then hugetlbfs releases the

Longterm pinned means the hugetlbfs page were mapped at userspace and
someone called FOLL_LONGTERM against on the page?

>             pages entirely (via unmounting hugetlbfs, I presume). In

Then, how can FS unmount successfully while something is accessing
on the page of the file in FS? (I expected FS should return -EBUSY).
Does hugetlbfs have something special?


>             this case, we now have CMA page that are long-term pinned,
>             and that's the state we want to avoid.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-20 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-13  9:03 syzbot
2022-05-13 16:43 ` syzbot
2022-05-13 17:26   ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-13 18:09     ` Mike Kravetz
2022-05-13 22:48       ` Mike Kravetz
2022-05-13 23:19         ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-13 23:54           ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-14  0:09             ` John Hubbard
2022-05-14  0:26               ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-14  0:56                 ` John Hubbard
2022-05-14  1:16                   ` John Hubbard
2022-05-17  3:37                   ` Mike Kravetz
2022-05-18  7:12                     ` John Hubbard
2022-05-20 22:19                     ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-20 22:56                       ` John Hubbard
2022-05-20 23:25                         ` Minchan Kim [this message]
2022-05-20 23:31                         ` Mike Kravetz
2022-05-20 23:43                           ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-21  0:04                             ` Mike Kravetz
2022-05-21 15:24                               ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-21 15:51                                 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-21 16:36                                   ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-21 16:46                                     ` David Hildenbrand
2022-05-21 18:25                                       ` Minchan Kim
2022-05-21 23:50                                         ` Mike Kravetz
2022-05-14  0:18             ` Andrew Morton

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