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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	tj@kernel.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@kernel.org, shakeelb@google.com,
	kernel-team@fb.com, Richard Palethorpe <rpalethorpe@suse.com>,
	Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] cgroup: Account for memory_recursiveprot in test_memcg_low()
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 13:53:05 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ynv4AdjeVjptnjrH@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220510174341.GC24172@blackbody.suse.cz>

Hi Michal,

On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 07:43:41PM +0200, Michal Koutný wrote:
> On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 05:44:24PM -0700, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > So I think we're OK with [2/5] now.  Unless there be objections, I'll
> > be looking to get this series into mm-stable later this week.
> 
> I'm sorry, I think the current form of the test reveals an unexpected
> behavior of reclaim and silencing the test is not the way to go.
> Although, I may be convinced that my understanding is wrong.

Looking through your demo results again, I agree with you. It's a tiny
error, but it compounds and systematically robs the protected group
over and over, to the point where its protection becomes worthless -
at least in idle groups, which isn't super common but does happen.

Let's keep the test as-is and fix reclaim to make it pass ;)

> The obvious fix is at the end of this message, it resolves the case I
> posted earlier (with memory_recursiveprot), however, it "breaks"
> memory.events:low accounting inside recursive children, hence I'm not
> considering it finished. (I may elaborate on the breaking case if
> interested, I also need to look more into that myself).

Can you indeed elaborate on the problem you see with low events?

> @@ -2798,13 +2798,6 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct scan_control *sc,
>  
>  			scan = lruvec_size - lruvec_size * protection /
>  				(cgroup_size + 1);
> -
> -			/*
> -			 * Minimally target SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX pages to keep
> -			 * reclaim moving forwards, avoiding decrementing
> -			 * sc->priority further than desirable.
> -			 */
> -			scan = max(scan, SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX);

IIRC this was added due to premature OOMs in synthetic testing (Chris
may remember more details).

However, in practice it wasn't enough anyway, and was followed up by
f56ce412a59d ("mm: memcontrol: fix occasional OOMs due to proportional
memory.low reclaim"). Now, reclaim retries the whole cycle if
proportional protection was in place and it didn't manage to make
progress. The rounding for progress doesn't seem to matter anymore.

So your proposed patch looks like the right thing to do to me. And I
would ack it, but please do explain your concerns around low event
reporting after it.

Thanks!


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-11 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-23 15:56 [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix bugs in memcontroller cgroup tests David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] cgroups: Refactor children cgroups in memcg tests David Vernet
2022-04-26  1:56   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] cgroup: Account for memory_recursiveprot in test_memcg_low() David Vernet
2022-04-27 14:09   ` Michal Koutný
2022-04-29  1:03     ` David Vernet
2022-04-29  9:26       ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-06 16:40         ` David Vernet
2022-05-09 15:09           ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-10  0:44             ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-10 17:43               ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-11 17:53                 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2022-05-12 17:27                   ` Michal Koutný
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] cgroup: Account for memory_localevents in test_memcg_oom_group_leaf_events() David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] cgroup: Removing racy check in test_memcg_sock() David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] cgroup: Fix racy check in alloc_pagecache_max_30M() helper function David Vernet
2022-05-12 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix bugs in memcontroller cgroup tests Michal Koutný
2022-05-12 17:30   ` David Vernet
2022-05-12 17:44     ` David Vernet
2022-05-13 17:18       ` [PATCH 0/4] memcontrol selftests fixups Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:18         ` [PATCH 1/4] selftests: memcg: Fix compilation Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:40           ` David Vernet
2022-05-13 18:53           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 19:09             ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 17:18         ` [PATCH 2/4] selftests: memcg: Expect no low events in unprotected sibling Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:42           ` David Vernet
2022-05-13 18:54           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-18 15:54             ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:18         ` [PATCH 3/4] selftests: memcg: Adjust expected reclaim values of protected cgroups Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 18:52           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 17:18         ` [PATCH 4/4] selftests: memcg: Remove protection from top level memcg Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 18:59           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-18  0:24             ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-18  0:52               ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-18 15:44                 ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 19:14           ` David Vernet

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