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From: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
To: Tong Tiangen <tongtiangen@huawei.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Kefeng Wang <wangkefeng.wang@huawei.com>,
	Xie XiuQi <xiexiuqi@huawei.com>, Guohanjun <guohanjun@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -next v4 4/7] arm64: add copy_{to, from}_user to machine check safe
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 14:41:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YnPUHC3GlZs6XHU4@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7da54d72-e5fa-41b5-67ea-a0b084e4c94a@huawei.com>

On Thu, May 05, 2022 at 02:39:43PM +0800, Tong Tiangen wrote:
> 在 2022/5/4 18:26, Catalin Marinas 写道:
> > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 03:04:15AM +0000, Tong Tiangen wrote:
> > > Add copy_{to, from}_user() to machine check safe.
> > > 
> > > If copy fail due to hardware memory error, only the relevant processes are
> > > affected, so killing the user process and isolate the user page with
> > > hardware memory errors is a more reasonable choice than kernel panic.
> > 
> > Just to make sure I understand - we can only recover if the fault is in
> > a user page. That is, for a copy_from_user(), we can only handle the
> > faults in the source address, not the destination.
> 
> At the beginning, I also thought we can only recover if the fault is in a
> user page.
> After discussion with a Mark[1], I think no matter user page or kernel page,
> as long as it is triggered by the user process, only related processes will
> be affected. According to this
> understanding, it seems that all uaccess can be recovered.
> 
> [1]https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-arm-kernel/patch/20220406091311.3354723-6-tongtiangen@huawei.com/

We can indeed safely skip this copy and return an error just like
pretending there was a user page fault. However, my point was more
around the "isolate the user page with hardware memory errors". If the
fault is on a kernel address, there's not much you can do about. You'll
likely trigger it later when you try to access that address (maybe it
was freed and re-allocated). Do we hope we won't get the same error
again on that kernel address?

-- 
Catalin


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-05 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-20  3:04 [PATCH -next v4 0/7]arm64: add machine check safe support Tong Tiangen
2022-04-20  3:04 ` [PATCH -next v4 1/7] x86, powerpc: fix function define in copy_mc_to_user Tong Tiangen
2022-04-22  9:45   ` Michael Ellerman
2022-04-24  1:16     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-05-02 14:24   ` Christophe Leroy
2022-05-03  1:06     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-05-05  1:21       ` Kefeng Wang
2022-04-20  3:04 ` [PATCH -next v4 2/7] arm64: fix types in copy_highpage() Tong Tiangen
2022-04-20  3:04 ` [PATCH -next v4 3/7] arm64: add support for machine check error safe Tong Tiangen
2022-05-13 15:26   ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-19  6:29     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-05-25  8:30       ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-26  3:36         ` Tong Tiangen
2022-05-26  9:50           ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-27  1:40             ` Tong Tiangen
2022-04-20  3:04 ` [PATCH -next v4 4/7] arm64: add copy_{to, from}_user to machine check safe Tong Tiangen
2022-05-04 10:26   ` Catalin Marinas
2022-05-05  6:39     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-05-05 13:41       ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2022-05-05 14:33         ` Tong Tiangen
2022-05-13 15:31   ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-19  6:53     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-04-20  3:04 ` [PATCH -next v4 5/7] arm64: mte: Clean up user tag accessors Tong Tiangen
2022-05-13 15:36   ` Mark Rutland
2022-04-20  3:04 ` [PATCH -next v4 6/7] arm64: add {get, put}_user to machine check safe Tong Tiangen
2022-05-13 15:39   ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-19  7:09     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-04-20  3:04 ` [PATCH -next v4 7/7] arm64: add cow " Tong Tiangen
2022-05-13 15:44   ` Mark Rutland
2022-05-19 10:38     ` Tong Tiangen
2022-04-27  9:09 ` [PATCH -next v4 0/7]arm64: add machine check safe support Tong Tiangen
2022-05-04 19:58 ` (subset) " Catalin Marinas
2022-05-16 18:45 ` Catalin Marinas

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