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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com>
Cc: Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH resend] memcg: introduce per-memcg reclaim interface
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2022 15:03:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ykb4DVt0eKrstDWv@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJD7tkarUYM6fjty8FXn9gtR=RVWgksa3LNwswi1Ug1LPnLt4g@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri 01-04-22 02:17:28, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 8:38 PM Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 5:33 PM Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2022 08:41:51 +0000 Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@google.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> > > > +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > > > @@ -6355,6 +6355,38 @@ static ssize_t memory_oom_group_write(struct kernfs_open_file *of,
> > > >       return nbytes;
> > > >  }
> > > >
> > > > +static ssize_t memory_reclaim(struct kernfs_open_file *of, char *buf,
> > > > +                           size_t nbytes, loff_t off)
> > > > +{
> > > > +     struct mem_cgroup *memcg = mem_cgroup_from_css(of_css(of));
> > > > +     unsigned int nr_retries = MAX_RECLAIM_RETRIES;
> > > > +     unsigned long nr_to_reclaim, nr_reclaimed = 0;
> > > > +     int err;
> > > > +
> > > > +     buf = strstrip(buf);
> > > > +     err = page_counter_memparse(buf, "", &nr_to_reclaim);
> > > > +     if (err)
> > > > +             return err;
> > > > +
> > > > +     while (nr_reclaimed < nr_to_reclaim) {
> > > > +             unsigned long reclaimed;
> > > > +
> > > > +             if (signal_pending(current))
> > > > +                     break;
> > > > +
> > > > +             reclaimed = try_to_free_mem_cgroup_pages(memcg,
> > > > +                                             nr_to_reclaim - nr_reclaimed,
> > > > +                                             GFP_KERNEL, true);
> > > > +
> > > > +             if (!reclaimed && !nr_retries--)
> > > > +                     break;
> > > > +
> > > > +             nr_reclaimed += reclaimed;
> > > > +     }
> > >
> > > Is there any way in which this can be provoked into triggering the
> > > softlockup detector?
> >
> > memory.reclaim is similar to memory.high w.r.t. reclaiming memory,
> > except that memory.reclaim is stateless, while the kernel remembers
> > the state set by memory.high.  So memory.reclaim should not bring in
> > any new risks of triggering soft lockup, if any.

Memory reclaim already has cond_resched even if there is nothing
reclaimable. See shrink_node_memcgs

> > > Is it optimal to do the MAX_RECLAIM_RETRIES loop in the kernel?
> > > Would additional flexibility be gained by letting userspace handle
> > > retrying?
> >
> > I agree it is better to retry from the userspace.
> 
> Thanks Andrew and Wei for looking at this. IIUC the
> MAX_RECLAIM_RETRIES loop was modeled after the loop in memory.high as
> well. Is there a reason why it should be different here?

No, I would go with the same approach other interfaces use. I am not a
great fan of MAX_RECLAIM_RETRIES - especially when we have a bail out on
signals - but if we are to change this then let's do it consisently.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-01 13:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-31  8:41 Yosry Ahmed
2022-03-31 17:25 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-01  6:01   ` Wei Xu
2022-04-01  9:11   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01 18:39     ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-01 21:13       ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-01 21:21         ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-01 21:38           ` Wei Xu
2022-04-01 21:51           ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-04 17:14             ` Shakeel Butt
2022-04-04 17:13       ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-04 17:55         ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-01  9:15   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01 15:41     ` Shakeel Butt
2022-04-01 13:49   ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-01 16:58     ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-04  8:44       ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-04 18:25         ` Roman Gushchin
2022-03-31 19:25 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-01  0:33 ` Andrew Morton
2022-04-01  3:38   ` Wei Xu
2022-04-01  9:17     ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01 13:03       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-04-01  3:05 ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-01  9:20   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01  9:48     ` Chen Wandun
2022-04-01 10:02       ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01  4:05 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-01  9:22   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01 15:22   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-01 20:14     ` Wei Xu
2022-04-01 21:07       ` Johannes Weiner
2022-04-04 17:08       ` Shakeel Butt
2022-04-05  2:30         ` Wei Xu
2022-04-05 10:09         ` Michal Koutný
2022-04-01  8:39 ` Vaibhav Jain
2022-04-01  9:23   ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-04  3:50     ` Vaibhav Jain
2022-04-04 17:18       ` Yosry Ahmed
2022-04-01 13:54 ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-01 16:56   ` Wei Xu
2022-04-02  8:13     ` Huang, Ying
2022-04-03  6:46       ` Wei Xu
2022-04-03  6:56       ` Wei Xu
2022-04-06  0:48         ` Huang, Ying
2022-04-06  1:07           ` Wei Xu
2022-04-06  2:49             ` Huang, Ying
2022-04-06  5:02               ` Wei Xu
2022-04-06  6:32                 ` Huang, Ying
2022-04-06  7:05                   ` Wei Xu
2022-04-06  8:49                     ` Huang, Ying
2022-04-06 20:16                       ` Wei Xu
2022-04-07  7:35                   ` Michal Hocko
2022-04-07 21:26               ` Tim Chen
2022-04-07 22:07                 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-07 22:12                 ` Wei Xu
2022-04-07 23:11                   ` Tim Chen
2022-04-08  2:10                     ` Wei Xu
2022-04-08  3:08                       ` Huang, Ying
2022-04-08  4:10                         ` Wei Xu
2022-04-04 17:09   ` Yosry Ahmed

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