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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Joel Savitz <jsavitz@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Rafael Aquini <aquini@redhat.com>,
	Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>, Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Christoph von Recklinghausen <crecklin@redhat.com>,
	Don Dutile <ddutile@redhat.com>,
	"Herton R . Krzesinski" <herton@redhat.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
	Andre Almeida <andrealmeid@collabora.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] mm/oom_kill.c: futex: Close a race between do_exit and the oom_reaper
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2022 11:18:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YkQgWcZ7w0zL1a7n@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YjrlqAMyJg3GKZVs@dhcp22.suse.cz>

Nico,

On Wed 23-03-22 10:17:29, Michal Hocko wrote:
> Let me skip over futex part which I need to digest and only focus on the
> oom side of the things for clarification.
> 
> On Tue 22-03-22 23:43:18, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
[...]
> > You can easily validate that by doing:
> > 
> > wake_oom_reaper(task)
> >    task->reap_time = jiffies + HZ;
> >    queue_task(task);
> >    wakeup(reaper);
> > 
> > and then:
> > 
> > oom_reap_task(task)
> >     now = READ_ONCE(jiffies);
> >     if (time_before(now, task->reap_time)
> >         schedule_timeout_idle(task->reap_time - now);
> > 
> > before trying to actually reap the mm.
> > 
> > That will prevent the enforced race in most cases and allow the exiting
> > and/or killed processes to cleanup themself. Not pretty, but it should
> > reduce the chance of the reaper to win the race with the exiting and/or
> > killed process significantly.
> > 
> > It's not going to work when the problem is combined with a heavy VM
> > overload situation which keeps a guest (or one/some it's vCPUs) away
> > from being scheduled. See below for a discussion of guarantees.
> > 
> > If it failed to do so when the sleep returns, then you still can reap
> > it.
> 
> Yes, this is certainly an option. Please note that the oom_reaper is not
> the only way to trigger this. process_mrelease syscall performs the same
> operation from the userspace. Arguably process_mrelease could be used
> sanely/correctly because the userspace oom killer can do pro-cleanup
> steps before going to final SIGKILL & process_mrelease. One way would be
> to send SIGTERM in the first step and allow the victim to perform its
> cleanup.

are you working on another version of the fix/workaround based on the
discussion so far?

I guess the most reasonable way forward is to rework
oom_reaper processing to be delayed. This can be either done by a
delayed wake up or as Thomas suggests above by postponing the
processing. I think the delayed wakeup would be _slightly_ easier to
handle because the queue can contain many tasks to be reaped.

More specifically something like delayed work but we cannot rely on
the WQ here. I guess we do not have any delayed wait queue interface
but the same trick with the timer should be applicable here as well.
exit_mmap would then cancel the timer after __oom_reap_task_mm is done.
Actually the timer could be canceled after mmu_notifier_release already
but this shouldn't make much of a difference.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-03-30  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-18  3:36 Nico Pache
2022-03-21  8:55 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-21 22:45   ` Nico Pache
     [not found]   ` <20220322004231.rwmnbjpq4ms6fnbi@offworld>
2022-03-22  1:53     ` Nico Pache
     [not found]       ` <20220322025724.j3japdo5qocwgchz@offworld>
2022-03-22  3:09         ` Nico Pache
2022-03-22  8:26         ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-22 15:17           ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-22 16:36             ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-22 22:43               ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-23  9:17                 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-23 10:30                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2022-03-23 11:11                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-30  9:18                   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-03-30 18:18                     ` Nico Pache
2022-03-30 21:36                       ` Nico Pache
2022-04-06 17:22             ` Nico Pache
2022-04-06 17:36               ` Nico Pache

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