From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Zach O'Keefe <zokeefe@google.com>
Cc: Alex Shi <alex.shi@linux.alibaba.com>,
David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>,
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Pavel Begunkov <asml.silence@gmail.com>,
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Thomas Bogendoerfer <tsbogend@alpha.franken.de>,
Yang Shi <shy828301@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/14] mm: userspace hugepage collapse
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2022 15:37:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YjiNlPWkBN6UwEOY@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220308213417.1407042-1-zokeefe@google.com>
[ Removed Richard Henderson from the CC list as the delivery fails for
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On Tue 08-03-22 13:34:03, Zach O'Keefe wrote:
> Introduction
> --------------------------------
>
> This series provides a mechanism for userspace to induce a collapse of
> eligible ranges of memory into transparent hugepages in process context,
> thus permitting users to more tightly control their own hugepage
> utilization policy at their own expense.
>
> This idea was previously introduced by David Rientjes, and thanks to
> everyone for your patience while I prepared these patches resulting from
> that discussion[1].
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/C8C89F13-3F04-456B-BA76-DE2C378D30BF@nvidia.com/
>
> Interface
> --------------------------------
>
> The proposed interface adds a new madvise(2) mode, MADV_COLLAPSE, and
> leverages the new process_madvise(2) call.
>
> (*) process_madvise(2)
>
> Performs a synchronous collapse of the native pages mapped by
> the list of iovecs into transparent hugepages. The default gfp
> flags used will be the same as those used at-fault for the VMA
> region(s) covered.
Could you expand on reasoning here? The default allocation mode for #PF
is rather light. Madvised will try harder. The reasoning is that we want
to make stalls due to #PF as small as possible and only try harder for
madvised areas (also a subject of configuration). Wouldn't it make more
sense to try harder for an explicit calls like madvise?
> When multiple VMA regions are spanned, if
> faulting-in memory from any VMA would permit synchronous
> compaction and reclaim, then all hugepage allocations required
> to satisfy the request may enter compaction and reclaim.
I am not sure I follow here. Let's have a memory range spanning two
vmas, one with MADV_HUGEPAGE.
> Diverging from the at-fault semantics, VM_NOHUGEPAGE is ignored
> by default, as the user is explicitly requesting this action.
> Define two flags to control collapse semantics, passed through
> process_madvise(2)’s optional flags parameter:
This part is discussed later in the thread.
>
> MADV_F_COLLAPSE_LIMITS
>
> If supplied, collapse respects pte collapse limits set via
> sysfs:
> /transparent_hugepage/khugepaged/max_ptes_[none|swap|shared].
> Required if calling on behalf of another process and not
> CAP_SYS_ADMIN.
>
> MADV_F_COLLAPSE_DEFRAG
>
> If supplied, permit synchronous compaction and reclaim,
> regardless of VMA flags.
Why do we need this?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-21 14:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-08 21:34 Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 01/14] mm/rmap: add mm_find_pmd_raw helper Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-09 22:48 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 02/14] mm/khugepaged: add struct collapse_control Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-09 22:53 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 03/14] mm/khugepaged: add __do_collapse_huge_page() helper Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 04/14] mm/khugepaged: separate khugepaged_scan_pmd() scan and collapse Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 05/14] mm/khugepaged: add mmap_assert_locked() checks to scan_pmd() Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 06/14] mm/khugepaged: add hugepage_vma_revalidate_pmd_count() Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-09 23:15 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 07/14] mm/khugepaged: add vm_flags_ignore to hugepage_vma_revalidate_pmd_count() Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-09 23:17 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 0:00 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 0:41 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 1:09 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 2:16 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 15:50 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 18:17 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 18:46 ` David Rientjes
2022-03-10 18:58 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 19:54 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 20:24 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 18:53 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 15:56 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-03-10 18:39 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 18:54 ` David Rientjes
2022-03-21 14:27 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 08/14] mm/thp: add madv_thp_vm_flags to __transparent_hugepage_enabled() Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 09/14] mm/khugepaged: record SCAN_PAGE_COMPOUND when scan_pmd() finds THP Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-09 23:40 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 0:46 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 2:05 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 8:37 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 10/14] mm/khugepaged: rename khugepaged-specific/not functions Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 11/14] mm/madvise: introduce MADV_COLLAPSE sync hugepage collapse Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-09 23:43 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 1:11 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 12/14] mm/madvise: introduce batched madvise(MADV_COLLPASE) collapse Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-10 0:06 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-10 19:26 ` David Rientjes
2022-03-10 20:16 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-03-11 0:06 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-25 16:51 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-25 19:54 ` Yang Shi
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 13/14] mm/madvise: add __madvise_collapse_*_batch() actions Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-08 21:34 ` [RFC PATCH 14/14] mm/madvise: add process_madvise(MADV_COLLAPSE) Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-21 14:32 ` [RFC PATCH 00/14] mm: userspace hugepage collapse Zi Yan
2022-03-21 14:51 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-21 14:37 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-03-21 15:46 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-22 12:11 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-22 15:53 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-29 12:24 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-30 0:36 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-22 6:40 ` Zach O'Keefe
2022-03-22 12:05 ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-23 13:30 ` Zach O'Keefe
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