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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, jsavitz@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	dvhart@infradead.org, dave@stgolabs.net,
	andrealmeid@collabora.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] mm/oom: do not oom reap task with an unresolved robust futex
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2022 08:48:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YiBy0MXkefqfFvKk@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7f1ba14f-34e8-5f05-53b7-c12913693df8@redhat.com>

On Wed 02-03-22 12:26:45, Nico Pache wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/2/22 09:24, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > Sorry, this has slipped through cracks.
> > 
> > On Mon 14-02-22 15:39:31, Nico Pache wrote:
> > [...]
> >> We've recently been discussing the following if statement in __oom_reap_task_mm:
> >> 	if (vma_is_anonymous(vma) || !(vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED))
> >>
> >> Given the comment above it, and some of the upstream discussion the original
> >> RFC, we are struggling to see why this should be a `||` and not an `&&`. If we
> >> only want to reap anon memory and reaping shared memory can be dangerous is this
> >> statement incorrect?
> >>
> >> We have a patch queued up to make this change, but wanted to get your opinion on
> >> why this was originally designed this way in case we are missing something.
> > 
> > I do not really see why this would be wrong. Private file backed
> > mappings can contain a reapable memory as well. I do not see how this
> > would solve the futex issue.
> We were basing our discussion around the following comment:
> /*
>  * Only anonymous pages have a good chance to be dropped
>  * without additional steps which we cannot afford as we
>  * are OOM already.
>  *
>  * We do not even care about fs backed pages because all
>  * which are reclaimable have already been reclaimed and
>  * we do not want to block exit_mmap by keeping mm ref
>  * count elevated without a good reason.
>  */
> 
> So changing to an && would align the functionality with this comment by ignoring
> fs backed pages, and additionally it prevents shared mappings from being reaped.
> We have tested this change and found we can no longer reproduce the issue. In
> our case we allocate the mutex on a MAP_SHARED|MAP_ANONYMOUS mmap so the if-
> statement in question would no longer return true after the && change.
> 
> If it is the case that private fs backed pages matter perhaps we want something
> like this:
> 	if ((vma_is_anonymous(vma) && !(vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED))
> 	||(!vma_is_anonymous(vma) && !(vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED)))
> 
> or more simply:
> 	if(!(vma->vm_flags & VM_SHARED))
> 
> to exclude all VM_SHARED mappings.

I would have to think about that some more but I do not really see how
this is related to the futex issue. In other words what kind of problem
does this solve?

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-03  7:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-14 18:01 Nico Pache
2022-01-17  8:52 ` Michal Hocko
2022-01-17 16:05   ` Waiman Long
2022-01-17 22:56     ` Nico Pache
2022-01-18  8:51       ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-14 20:39         ` Nico Pache
2022-03-02 14:24           ` Michal Hocko
2022-03-02 17:26             ` Nico Pache
2022-03-03  7:48               ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-03-09  0:24                 ` Nico Pache

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