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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: cgroups@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Johannes Weiner" <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	"Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>,
	"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Vladimir Davydov" <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	"Waiman Long" <longman@redhat.com>,
	"kernel test robot" <oliver.sang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/5] mm/memcg: Protect memcg_stock with a local_lock_t
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 18:17:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YhPJM4RjqklanVLE@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YhPBXUmIIHeXI/Gz@linutronix.de>

On Mon 21-02-22 17:44:13, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2022-02-21 17:24:41 [+0100], Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > > @@ -2282,14 +2288,9 @@ static void drain_all_stock(struct mem_cgroup *root_memcg)
> > > > >  		rcu_read_unlock();
> > > > >  
> > > > >  		if (flush &&
> > > > > -		    !test_and_set_bit(FLUSHING_CACHED_CHARGE, &stock->flags)) {
> > > > > -			if (cpu == curcpu)
> > > > > -				drain_local_stock(&stock->work);
> > > > > -			else
> > > > > -				schedule_work_on(cpu, &stock->work);
> > > > > -		}
> > > > > +		    !test_and_set_bit(FLUSHING_CACHED_CHARGE, &stock->flags))
> > > > > +			schedule_work_on(cpu, &stock->work);
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe I am missing but on !PREEMPT kernels there is nothing really
> > > > guaranteeing that the worker runs so there should be cond_resched after
> > > > the mutex is unlocked. I do not think we want to rely on callers to be
> > > > aware of this subtlety.
> > > 
> > > There is no guarantee on PREEMPT kernels, too. The worker will be made
> > > running and will be put on the CPU when the scheduler sees it fit and
> > > there could be other worker which take precedence (queued earlier).
> > > But I was not aware that the worker _needs_ to run before we return.
> > 
> > A lack of draining will not be a correctness problem (sorry I should
> > have made that clear). It is more about subtlety than anything. E.g. the
> > charging path could be forced to memory reclaim because of the cached
> > charges which are still waiting for their draining. Not really something
> > to lose sleep over from the runtime perspective. I was just wondering
> > that this makes things more complex than necessary.
> 
> So it is no strictly wrong but it would be better if we could do
> drain_local_stock() on the local CPU.
> 
> > > We
> > > might get migrated after put_cpu() so I wasn't aware that this is
> > > important. Should we attempt best effort and wait for the worker on the
> > > current CPU?
> > 
> > 
> > > > An alternative would be to split out __drain_local_stock which doesn't
> > > > do local_lock.
> > > 
> > > but isn't the section in drain_local_stock() unprotected then?
> > 
> > local_lock instead of {get,put}_cpu would handle that right?
> 
> It took a while, but it clicked :)
> If we acquire the lock_lock_t, that we would otherwise acquire in
> drain_local_stock(), before the for_each_cpu loop (as you say
> get,pu_cpu) then we would indeed need __drain_local_stock() and things
> would work. But it looks like an abuse of the lock to avoid CPU
> migration since there is no need to have it acquired at this point. Also
> the whole section would run with disabled interrupts and there is no
> need for it.
> 
> What about if replace get_cpu() with migrate_disable()? 

Yeah, that would be a better option. I am just not used to think in RT
so migrate_disable didn't really come to my mind.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-21 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-17  9:47 [PATCH v3 0/5] mm/memcg: Address PREEMPT_RT problems instead of disabling it Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-17  9:47 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] mm/memcg: Revert ("mm/memcg: optimize user context object stock access") Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-18 16:09   ` Shakeel Butt
2022-02-21 14:26   ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-17  9:47 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] mm/memcg: Disable threshold event handlers on PREEMPT_RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-18 16:39   ` Shakeel Butt
2022-02-21 14:27   ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-17  9:48 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] mm/memcg: Protect per-CPU counter by disabling preemption on PREEMPT_RT where needed Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-18 17:25   ` Shakeel Butt
2022-02-21 11:31     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-21 12:12       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-21 13:18       ` Michal Koutný
2022-02-21 13:58         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-17  9:48 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] mm/memcg: Opencode the inner part of obj_cgroup_uncharge_pages() in drain_obj_stock() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-18 18:40   ` Shakeel Butt
2022-02-18 19:07   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-02-21 14:30   ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-17  9:48 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] mm/memcg: Protect memcg_stock with a local_lock_t Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-21 14:46   ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-21 15:19     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-21 16:24       ` Michal Hocko
2022-02-21 16:44         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2022-02-21 17:17           ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2022-02-21 17:25             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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