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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Alistair Popple <apopple@nvidia.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	Yang Li <yang.lee@linux.alibaba.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/13] mm/munlock: rmap call mlock_vma_page() munlock_vma_page()
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 23:21:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ygw1Zn+WUuY5WkZy@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c6097a7-df8c-f39c-36e8-8b5410e76c8a@google.com>

On Tue, Feb 15, 2022 at 01:38:20PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Feb 2022, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 06:26:39PM -0800, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> > > Add vma argument to mlock_vma_page() and munlock_vma_page(), make them
> > > inline functions which check (vma->vm_flags & VM_LOCKED) before calling
> > > mlock_page() and munlock_page() in mm/mlock.c.
> > > 
> > > Add bool compound to mlock_vma_page() and munlock_vma_page(): this is
> > > because we have understandable difficulty in accounting pte maps of THPs,
> > > and if passed a PageHead page, mlock_page() and munlock_page() cannot
> > > tell whether it's a pmd map to be counted or a pte map to be ignored.
> > > 
> > [...]
> > > 
> > > Mlock accounting on THPs has been hard to define, differed between anon
> > > and file, involved PageDoubleMap in some places and not others, required
> > > clear_page_mlock() at some points.  Keep it simple now: just count the
> > > pmds and ignore the ptes, there is no reason for ptes to undo pmd mlocks.
> > 
> > How would you suggest we handle the accounting for folios which are
> > intermediate in size between PMDs and PTEs?  eg, an order-4 page?
> > Would it make sense to increment mlock_count by HUGE_PMD_NR for
> > each PMD mapping and by 1 for each PTE mapping?
> 
> I think you're asking the wrong question here, but perhaps you've
> already decided there's only one satisfactory answer to the right question.

Or I've gravely misunderstood the situation.  Or explained my concern
badly.  The possibilities are endless!

My concern is that a filesystem may create an order-4 folio, an
application mmaps the folio and then calls mlock() (either over a portion
or the entirety of the folio).  As far as I can tell, we then do not
move the folio onto the unevictable list because it is of order >0 and
is only mapped by PTEs.  This presumably then has performance problems
(or we wouldn't need to have an unevictable list in the first place).

> The question I thought you should be asking is about how to count them
> in Mlocked.  That's tough; but I take it for granted that you would not
> want per-subpage flags and counts involved (or not unless forced to do
> so by some regression that turns out to matter).  And I think the only
> satisfactory answer is to count the whole compound_nr() as Mlocked
> when any part of it (a single pte, a series of ptes, a pmd) is mlocked;
> and (try to) move folio to Unevictable whenever any part of it is mlocked.

I think that makes sense.  As with so many other things, we choose to
manage memory in >PAGE_SIZE chunks.  If you mlock() a part of a folio,
we lock the whole folio in memory, and it all counts as being locked.


  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-15 23:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-15  2:18 [PATCH v2 00/13] mm/munlock: rework of mlock+munlock page handling Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15  2:20 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] mm/munlock: delete page_mlock() and all its works Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15  2:21 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] mm/munlock: delete FOLL_MLOCK and FOLL_POPULATE Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15  2:23 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] mm/munlock: delete munlock_vma_pages_all(), allow oomreap Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15  2:26 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] mm/munlock: rmap call mlock_vma_page() munlock_vma_page() Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15 15:22   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-15 21:38     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15 23:21       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2022-02-15  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] mm/munlock: replace clear_page_mlock() by final clearance Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15  2:29 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] mm/munlock: maintain page->mlock_count while unevictable Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15  2:31 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] mm/munlock: mlock_pte_range() when mlocking or munlocking Hugh Dickins
2022-02-18  6:35   ` [mm/munlock] 237b445401: stress-ng.remap.ops_per_sec -62.6% regression kernel test robot
2022-02-18  8:49     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-02-21  6:32       ` Hugh Dickins
2022-02-24  8:37         ` Oliver Sang
2022-02-15  2:33 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] mm/migrate: __unmap_and_move() push good newpage to LRU Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15  2:34 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] mm/munlock: delete smp_mb() from __pagevec_lru_add_fn() Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15  2:37 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] mm/munlock: mlock_page() munlock_page() batch by pagevec Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15 16:40   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-15 21:02     ` Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15 22:56       ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-02-15  2:38 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] mm/munlock: page migration needs mlock pagevec drained Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15  2:40 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] mm/thp: collapse_file() do try_to_unmap(TTU_BATCH_FLUSH) Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15  2:42 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] mm/thp: shrink_page_list() avoid splitting VM_LOCKED THP Hugh Dickins
2022-02-15 19:35 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] mm/munlock: rework of mlock+munlock page handling Matthew Wilcox
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-06 21:27 [PATCH " Hugh Dickins
2022-02-06 21:36 ` [PATCH 04/13] mm/munlock: rmap call mlock_vma_page() munlock_vma_page() Hugh Dickins
2022-02-11 10:29   ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-02-14  7:05     ` [PATCH v2 " Hugh Dickins

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