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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@soleen.com>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	william.kucharski@oracle.com,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	schmitzmic@gmail.com, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Roman Gushchin <guro@fb.com>,
	Muchun Song <songmuchun@bytedance.com>,
	Wei Xu <weixugc@google.com>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	Paul Turner <pjt@google.com>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/9] mm: add overflow and underflow checks for page->_refcount
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2022 19:45:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YfGkxtQd0KE8YNXt@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+CK2bDHkOQbTrK=GbsGbojAj_6gaAX_8w3cBCd_LWqXt--yZA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 02:22:26PM -0500, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 1:59 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 06:34:21PM +0000, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> > > The problems with page->_refcount are hard to debug, because usually
> > > when they are detected, the damage has occurred a long time ago. Yet,
> > > the problems with invalid page refcount may be catastrophic and lead to
> > > memory corruptions.
> > >
> > > Reduce the scope of when the _refcount problems manifest themselves by
> > > adding checks for underflows and overflows into functions that modify
> > > _refcount.
> >
> > If you're chasing a bug like this, presumably you turn on page
> > tracepoints.  So could we reduce the cost of this by putting the
> > VM_BUG_ON_PAGE parts into __page_ref_mod() et al?  Yes, we'd need to
> > change the arguments to those functions to pass in old & new, but that
> > should be a cheap change compared to embedding the VM_BUG_ON_PAGE.
> 
> This is not only about chasing a bug. This also about preventing
> memory corruption and information leaking that are caused by ref_count
> bugs from happening.
> Several months ago a memory corruption bug was discovered by accident:
> an engineer was studying a process core from a production system and
> noticed that some memory does not look like it belongs to the original
> process. We tried to manually reproduce that bug but failed. However,
> later analysis by our team, explained that the problem occured due to
> ref_count bug in Linux, and the bug itself was root caused and fixed
> (mentioned in the cover letter).  This work would have prevented
> similar ref_count bugs from yielding to the memory corruption
> situation.

But the VM_BUG_ON_PAGE tells us next to nothing useful.  To take
your first example [1] as the kind of thing you say this is going to
help fix:

1. Page p is allocated by thread a (refcount 1)
2. Thread b gets mistaken pointer to p
3. Thread b calls put_page(), __put_page(), page goes to memory
   allocator.
4. Thread c calls alloc_page(), also gets page p (refcount 1 again).
5. Thread a calls put_page(), __put_page()
6. Thread c calls put_page() and gets a VM_BUG_ON_PAGE.

How do we find thread b's involvement?  I don't think we can even see
thread a's involvement in all of this!  All we know is a backtrace
pointing to thread c, who is a completely innocent bystander.  I think
you have to enable page tracepoints to have any shot at finding thread
b's involvement.

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/stable/20211122171825.1582436-1-gthelen@google.com/


  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-26 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-26 18:34 [PATCH v3 0/9] Hardening page _refcount Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-26 18:34 ` [PATCH v3 1/9] mm: add overflow and underflow checks for page->_refcount Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-26 18:59   ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-26 19:22     ` Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-26 19:45       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2022-01-26 22:40         ` Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-27 18:27       ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-27 19:38         ` Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-27 18:30   ` Vlastimil Babka
2022-01-27 19:42     ` Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-26 18:34 ` [PATCH v3 2/9] mm: Avoid using set_page_count() in set_page_recounted() Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-26 18:34 ` [PATCH v3 3/9] mm: remove set_page_count() from page_frag_alloc_align Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-26 18:34 ` [PATCH v3 4/9] mm: avoid using set_page_count() when pages are freed into allocator Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-26 18:34 ` [PATCH v3 5/9] mm: rename init_page_count() -> page_ref_init() Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-26 18:34 ` [PATCH v3 6/9] mm: remove set_page_count() Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-26 18:34 ` [PATCH v3 7/9] mm: simplify page_ref_* functions Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-26 18:34 ` [PATCH v3 8/9] mm: do not use atomic_set_release in page_ref_unfreeze() Pasha Tatashin
2022-01-26 18:34 ` [PATCH v3 9/9] mm: use atomic_cmpxchg_acquire in page_ref_freeze() Pasha Tatashin

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