From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
Ding Tianhong <dingtianhong@huawei.com>,
Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
Alexey Klimov <aklimov@redhat.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vmap(): don't allow invalid pages
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 13:03:06 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yeldih0PHotN4/bn@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <319b09bc-56a2-207f-6180-3cc7d8cd43d1@arm.com>
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 12:22:35PM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2022-01-19 19:12, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 06:43:10PM +0000, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > > Indeed, my impression is that the only legitimate way to get hold of a page
> > > pointer without assumed provenance is via pfn_to_page(), which is where
> > > pfn_valid() comes in. Thus pfn_valid(page_to_pfn()) really *should* be a
> > > tautology.
> >
> > That can only be true if pfn == page_to_pfn(pfn_to_page(pfn)) for all
> > values of pfn.
> >
> > Given how pfn_to_page() is defined in the sparsemem case:
> >
> > #define __pfn_to_page(pfn) \
> > ({ unsigned long __pfn = (pfn); \
> > struct mem_section *__sec = __pfn_to_section(__pfn); \
> > __section_mem_map_addr(__sec) + __pfn; \
> > })
> > #define page_to_pfn __page_to_pfn
> >
> > that isn't the case, especially when looking at page_to_pfn():
> >
> > #define __page_to_pfn(pg) \
> > ({ const struct page *__pg = (pg); \
> > int __sec = page_to_section(__pg); \
> > (unsigned long)(__pg - __section_mem_map_addr(__nr_to_section(__sec))); \
> > })
> >
> > Where:
> >
> > static inline unsigned long page_to_section(const struct page *page)
> > {
> > return (page->flags >> SECTIONS_PGSHIFT) & SECTIONS_MASK;
> > }
> >
> > So if page_to_section() returns something that is, e.g. zero for an
> > invalid page in a non-zero section, you're not going to end up with
> > the right pfn from page_to_pfn().
>
> Right, I emphasised "should" in an attempt to imply "in the absence of
> serious bugs that have further-reaching consequences anyway".
>
> > As I've said now a couple of times, trying to determine of a struct
> > page pointer is valid is the wrong question to be asking.
>
> And doing so in one single place, on the justification of avoiding an
> incredibly niche symptom, is even more so. Not to mention that an address
> size fault is one of the best possible outcomes anyway, vs. the untold
> damage that may stem from accesses actually going through to random parts of
> the physical memory map.
I don't see it as a "niche" symptom.
If we start off with the struct page being invalid, then the result of
page_to_pfn() can not be relied upon to produce something that is
meaningful - which is exactly why the vmap() issue arises.
With a pfn_valid() check, we at least know that the PFN points at
memory. However, that memory could be _anything_ in the system - it
could be the kernel image, and it could give userspace access to
change kernel code.
So, while it is useful to do a pfn_valid() check in vmap(), as I said
to willy, this must _not_ be the primary check. It should IMHO use
WARN_ON() to make it blatently obvious that it should be something we
expect _not_ to trigger under normal circumstances, but is there to
catch programming errors elsewhere.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-20 13:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-01-18 23:52 Yury Norov
2022-01-19 0:51 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-19 6:17 ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-01-19 17:22 ` Yury Norov
2022-01-20 3:37 ` Anshuman Khandual
2022-01-20 4:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-21 2:56 ` Yury Norov
2022-01-19 11:16 ` Mark Rutland
2022-01-19 17:00 ` Yury Norov
2022-01-19 18:06 ` Mark Rutland
2022-01-19 13:28 ` Robin Murphy
2022-01-19 16:27 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-19 17:54 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-01-19 18:01 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-19 18:57 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-01-19 19:35 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-19 22:38 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-01-19 18:43 ` Robin Murphy
2022-01-19 19:12 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-01-20 12:22 ` Robin Murphy
2022-01-20 13:03 ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2022-01-20 16:37 ` Robin Murphy
2022-01-20 16:54 ` Russell King (Oracle)
2022-01-20 19:04 ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-21 5:26 ` Yury Norov
2022-01-26 2:50 ` Matthew Wilcox
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