From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
Zefan Li <lizefan.x@bytedance.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,
syzbot <syzbot+cdb5dd11c97cc532efad@syzkaller.appspotmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
syzkaller-bugs <syzkaller-bugs@googlegroups.com>,
Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
Subject: Re: psi_trigger_poll() is completely broken
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 14:45:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ydw4hWCRjAhGfCAv@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wjn5xkLWaF2_4pMVEkZrTA=LiOH=_pQK0g-_BMSE-8Jxg@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jan 05, 2022 at 11:13:30AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 5, 2022 at 11:07 AM Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > Whoever came up with that stupid "replace existing trigger with a
> > write()" model should feel bad. It's garbage, and it's actively buggy
> > in multiple ways.
>
> What are the users? Can we make the rule for -EBUSY simply be that you
> can _install_ a trigger, but you can't replace an existing one (except
> with NULL, when you close it).
Apologies for the delay, I'm traveling right now.
The primary user of the poll interface is still Android userspace OOM
killing. I'm CCing Suren who is the most familiar with this usecase.
Suren, the way the refcounting is written right now assumes that
poll_wait() is the actual blocking wait. That's not true, it just
queues the waiter and saves &t->event_wait, and the *caller* of
psi_trigger_poll() continues to interact with it afterwards.
If at all possible, I would also prefer the simplicity of one trigger
setup per fd; if you need a new trigger, close the fd and open again.
Can you please take a look if that is workable from the Android side?
(I'm going to follow up on the static branch issue Linus pointed out,
later this week when I'm back home. I also think we should add Suren
as additional psi maintainer since the polling code is a good chunk of
the codebase and he shouldn't miss threads like these.)
> That would fix the poll() lifetime issue, and would make the
> psi_trigger_replace() races fairly easy to fix - just use
>
> if (cmpxchg(trigger_ptr, NULL, new) != NULL) {
> ... free 'new', return -EBUSY ..
>
> to install the new one, instead of
>
> rcu_assign_pointer(*trigger_ptr, new);
>
> or something like that. No locking necessary.
>
> But I assume people actually end up re-writing triggers, because
> people are perverse and have taken advantage of this completely broken
> API.
>
> Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-10 13:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <000000000000e8f8f505d0e479a5@google.com>
[not found] ` <20211211015620.1793-1-hdanton@sina.com>
2021-12-11 3:00 ` [syzbot] KASAN: use-after-free Read in remove_wait_queue (3) Eric Biggers
2022-01-05 15:20 ` psi_trigger_poll() is completely broken Eric Biggers
2022-01-05 18:50 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-05 19:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-05 19:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-06 22:05 ` Tejun Heo
2022-01-06 22:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-07 0:13 ` Eric Biggers
2022-01-07 3:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-10 13:45 ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2022-01-10 17:25 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-01-10 17:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2022-01-10 18:19 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
2022-01-11 3:02 ` Suren Baghdasaryan
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