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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/17] gup: Add try_get_folio()
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 01:37:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YdjqxS3o0ZxQ61fZ@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ac8af50-dff6-4a0f-dba6-8b8fe5f611d4@nvidia.com>

On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 05:25:07PM -0800, John Hubbard wrote:
> On 1/2/22 13:57, Matthew Wilcox (Oracle) wrote:
> > +	folio = page_folio(page);
> > +	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(folio_ref_count(folio) < 0))
> >   		return NULL;
> > -	if (unlikely(!page_cache_add_speculative(head, refs)))
> > +	if (unlikely(!folio_ref_try_add_rcu(folio, refs)))
> 
> I'm a little lost about the meaning and intended use of the _rcu aspects
> of folio_ref_try_add_rcu() here. For example, try_get_folio() does not
> require that callers are in an rcu read section, right? This is probably
> just a documentation question, sorry if it's obvious--I wasn't able to
> work it out on my own.

page_cache_add_speculative() always assumed that you were at least as
protected as RCU.  Quoting v5.4's pagemap.h:

 * speculatively take a reference to a page.
 * If the page is free (_refcount == 0), then _refcount is untouched, and 0
 * is returned. Otherwise, _refcount is incremented by 1 and 1 is returned.
 *
 * This function must be called inside the same rcu_read_lock() section as has
 * been used to lookup the page in the pagecache radix-tree (or page table):
 * this allows allocators to use a synchronize_rcu() to stabilize _refcount.

... so is it the addition of "rcu" in the name that's scared you?
If so, that seems like a good thing, because previously you were using
page_cache_add_speculative() without realising that RCU protection
was required.

I think there is sufficient protection; either we have interrupts disabled
in gup-fast (which prevents RCU from finishing a grace period), or we
have the mmap_sem held in gup-slow (which prevents pages from being
removed from the page tables).

But maybe I've missed something?


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-01-08  1:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-02 21:57 [PATCH 00/17] Convert GUP to folios Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 01/17] mm: Add folio_put_refs() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:00   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-04 21:15   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 02/17] mm: Add folio_pincount_available() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-04 18:25     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-04 21:40   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-05  5:04     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-05  6:24       ` John Hubbard
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 03/17] mm: Add folio_pincount_ptr() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:02   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-04 21:43   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-06 21:57   ` William Kucharski
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 04/17] mm: Convert page_maybe_dma_pinned() to use a folio Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-04 22:01   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 05/17] gup: Add try_get_folio() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-05  1:25   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-05  7:00     ` John Hubbard
2022-01-07 18:23     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-08  1:37     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2022-01-08  2:36       ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10 15:01       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 06/17] mm: Remove page_cache_add_speculative() and page_cache_get_speculative() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:18   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-05  1:29   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 07/17] gup: Add gup_put_folio() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:22   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-05  6:52   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-06 22:05   ` William Kucharski
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 08/17] gup: Add try_grab_folio() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-05  7:06   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 09/17] gup: Convert gup_pte_range() to use a folio Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-05  7:36   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-05  7:52     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-05  7:57       ` John Hubbard
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 10/17] gup: Convert gup_hugepte() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-05  7:46   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 11/17] gup: Convert gup_huge_pmd() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-05  7:50   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 12/17] gup: Convert gup_huge_pud() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-05  7:58   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 13/17] gup: Convert gup_huge_pgd() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-05  7:58   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 14/17] gup: Convert for_each_compound_head() to gup_for_each_folio() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-05  8:17   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-09  4:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-09  8:01       ` John Hubbard
2022-01-10 15:22         ` Jan Kara
2022-01-10 15:52           ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-10 20:36             ` Jan Kara
2022-01-10 21:10               ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-17 12:07                 ` Jan Kara
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 15/17] gup: Convert for_each_compound_range() to gup_for_each_folio_range() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-05  8:30   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 16/17] mm: Add isolate_lru_folio() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-05  8:44   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-06  0:34     ` Matthew Wilcox
2022-01-02 21:57 ` [PATCH 17/17] gup: Convert check_and_migrate_movable_pages() to use a folio Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2022-01-04  8:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-01-05  9:00   ` John Hubbard
2022-01-06 22:12 ` [PATCH 00/17] Convert GUP to folios William Kucharski
2022-01-07 18:54 ` Jason Gunthorpe

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