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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Kirill Shutemov <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mike Kravetz <mike.kravetz@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [5.4 PATCH] mm/gup: Do not force a COW break on file-backed memory
Date: Thu, 2 Dec 2021 19:59:06 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YaklihoYztAoKfxX@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wiHpPXjA=i6e=3Pk13frRd-RVXfSrT6=KfU2tg4Pu5MmQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 10:54:48AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2021 at 8:11 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > The other patch we've been kicking around (and works) is:
> >
> >  static inline bool should_force_cow_break(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned
> > int flags)
> >  {
> > -       return is_cow_mapping(vma->vm_flags) && (flags & FOLL_GET);
> > +       return is_cow_mapping(vma->vm_flags) &&
> > +               (!(vma->vm_flags & VM_DENYWRITE)) && (flags & FOLL_GET);
> >  }
> 
> That patch makes no sense to me.
> 
> It may "work", but it doesn't actually do anything sensible or really
> fix the problem that I can tell.

Oh absolutely, it's semantically nonsense.  The only reason it fixes the
problem is that VM_DENYWRITE VMAs are the only ones considered for the
RO_THP merging, so they're the only ones which we've seen causing a
problem.

> I suspect a real fix would be bigger and more invasive.

Darn.  I was hoping you were going to say something like "The real
problem is follow_trans_huge_pmd() is complete garbage and it should
just do X, Y and Z".  Or "When we force on FOLL_WRITE, we should also
force on FOLL_SPLIT_PMD".

> If the answer is not to backport all the other changes (and they were
> _really_ invasive), I think one answer may be to simply move the
> "should_force_cow_break()" down to below the point where you've looked
> up the page.
> 
> Then you can actually look at "is this a file mapped page", and say
> "if so, that's ok, we can return it as-is".
> 
> Otherwise, you do something like
> 
>         foll_flags |= FOLL_WRITE;
>         free_page(page);
>         goto repeat;
> 
> to repeat the loop (now with FOLL_WRITE).
> 
> So the patch is bigger and more involved, because you would have done
> the page lookup (for reading) and now notice "Oh, I need it for
> writing instead" so you need to undo and re-do).
> 
> But at least - unlike backporting everything else - it would be
> limited to that one __get_user_pages() function.
> 
> Hmm?
> 
> (And you'd need to handle that follow_hugetlb_page() case too), not
> just the follow_page_mask() one)

Thanks, I'll take a look.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-12-02 19:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-01 23:17 Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-12-02  3:51 ` Jann Horn
2021-12-02  4:11   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-02  4:33     ` Jann Horn
2021-12-02 18:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-12-02 19:59       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2021-12-02 22:33         ` Linus Torvalds

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