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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Nico Pache <npache@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, shakeelb@google.com,
	ktkhai@virtuozzo.com, shy828301@gmail.com, guro@fb.com,
	vbabka@suse.cz, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com, raquini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm/vmscan.c: Prevent allocating shrinker_info on offlined nodes
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 11:54:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Ya3r3C/OpnK7OBPt@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9d14beb-ee20-7ebb-e007-fbf58fb28535@redhat.com>

On Mon 06-12-21 11:45:54, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > This doesn't seen complete. Slab shrinkers are used in the reclaim
> > context. Previously offline nodes could be onlined later and this would
> > lead to NULL ptr because there is no hook to allocate new shrinker
> > infos. This would be also really impractical because this would have to
> > update all existing memcgs...
> 
> Instead of going through the trouble of updating...
> 
> ...  maybe just keep for_each_node() and check if the target node is
> offline. If it's offline, just allocate from the first online node.
> After all, we're not using __GFP_THISNODE, so there are no guarantees
> either way ...

This looks like another way to paper over a deeper underlying problem
IMHO. Fundamentally we have a problem that some pgdata are not allocated
and that causes a lot of headache. Not to mention that node_online
is just adding to a confusion because it doesn't really tell anything
about the logical state of the node.

I think we really should get rid of this approach rather than play a
whack-a-mole. We should really drop all notion of node_online and
instead allocate pgdat for each possible node. Arch specific code should
make sure that zone lists are properly initialized.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-12-06 10:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-12-06  3:33 [RFC PATCH 0/2] mm: Dont allocate pages on a offline node Nico Pache
2021-12-06  3:33 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] include/linux/gfp.h: Do not allocate pages on a offlined node Nico Pache
2021-12-06  3:37   ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-12-06  9:22   ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-07 21:24     ` Nico Pache
2021-12-06  3:33 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] mm/vmscan.c: Prevent allocating shrinker_info on offlined nodes Nico Pache
2021-12-06  9:22   ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-06  9:24     ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <d9d14beb-ee20-7ebb-e007-fbf58fb28535@redhat.com>
2021-12-06 10:54       ` Michal Hocko [this message]
     [not found]         ` <840cb3d0-61fe-b6cb-9918-69146ba06cf7@redhat.com>
2021-12-06 11:22           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <51c65635-1dae-6ba4-daf9-db9df0ec35d8@redhat.com>
2021-12-06 13:06               ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                 ` <05157de4-e5df-11fc-fc46-8a9f79d0ddb4@redhat.com>
2021-12-06 14:06                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                     ` <d4f281e6-1999-a3de-b879-c6ca6a25ae67@redhat.com>
2021-12-06 14:21                       ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-06 14:30                         ` Vlastimil Babka
2021-12-06 14:53                           ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-06 18:26                             ` Yang Shi
2021-12-07 10:15                               ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-06 14:15                   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]       ` <24b4455c-aff9-ca9f-e29f-350833e7a0d1@virtuozzo.com>
2021-12-06 13:24         ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-08 19:00           ` Nico Pache
2021-12-06 18:42         ` Yang Shi
     [not found]           ` <a48c16d6-07df-ff44-67e6-f0942672ec28@redhat.com>
2021-12-06 21:28             ` Yang Shi
2021-12-07 10:15               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-12-07 10:55             ` Michal Hocko
2021-12-07 21:45         ` Nico Pache
2021-12-07 21:40       ` Nico Pache
2021-12-07 21:34     ` Nico Pache
2021-12-06 18:45   ` Yang Shi

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