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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/62] mm: Split slab into its own type
Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 19:48:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YVyd58lghmXx/3cL@casper.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02a055cd-19d6-6e1d-59bb-e9e5f9f1da5b@redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 05, 2021 at 06:10:24PM +0200, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> My 2 cents just from reading the first 3 mails:
> 
> I'm not particularly happy about the "/* Reuses the bits in struct page */"
> part of thingy here, essentially really having to pay attention what
> whenever we change something in "struct page" to not mess up all the other
> special types we have. And I wasn't particularly happy scanning patch #1 and
> #2 for the same reason. Can't we avoid that?

I've tried to mitigate that with the compile-time assertions.  They're
actually a bit stronger than what we have now.

> What I can see is that we want (and must right now for generic
> infrastructure) keep some members of the the struct page" (e.g., flags,
> _refcount) at the very same place, because generic infrastructure relies on
> them.
> 
> Maybe that has already been discussed somewhere deep down in folio mail
> threads, but I would have expected that we keep struct-page generic inside
> struct-page and only have inside "struct slab" what's special for "struct
> slab".
> 
> I would have thought that we want something like this (but absolutely not
> this):
> 
> struct page_header {
> 	unsigned long flags;
> }
> 
> struct page_footer {
> 	atomic_t _refcount;
> #ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG
> 	unsigned long memcg_data;
> #endif
> }
> 
> struct page {
> 	struct page_header header;
> 	uint8_t reserved[$DO_THE_MATH]
> 	struct page_footer footer;
> };

The problem with this definition is the number of places which refer
to page->flags and must now be churned to page->header.flags.
_refcount is rather better encapsulated, and I'm not entirely sure
how much we'd have to do for memcg_data.  Maybe that was what you meant
by "this but absolutely not this"?  I don't quite understand what that
was supposed to mean.

> struct slab {
> 	...
> };
> 
> struct slab_page {
> 	struct page_header header;
> 	struct slab;
> 	struct page_footer footer;
> };
> 
> Instead of providing helpers for struct slab_page, simply cast to struct
> page and replace the structs in struct slab_page by simple placeholders with
> the same size.
> 
> That would to me look like a nice cleanup itself, ignoring all the other
> parallel discussions that are going on. But I imagine the problem is more
> involved, and a simple header/footer might not be sufficient.

Yes, exactly, the problems are more involved.  The location/contents of
page->mapping are special, the contents of bit zero of the second word
are special (determines compound_head or not) and slub particularly
relies on the 128-bit alignment of the { freelist, counters } pair.

The ultimate destination (and I think Kent/Johannes/I all agree
on this) is to dynamically allocate struct slab.  At _that_ point,
we can actually drop _refcount from struct slab and even change how
struct slab is defined based on CONFIG_SLUB / CONFIG_SLOB / CONFIG_SLAB.
I think we'll still need ->flags to be the first element of struct slab,
but bit 0 of the second word stops being special, we won't need to care
about where page->mapping aliases, and the 128-bit alignment becomes
solely the concern of the slub allocator instead of affecting everyone
who uses struct page.



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-05 18:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-04 13:45 [PATCH 00/62] Separate struct slab from struct page Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 01/62] mm: Convert page_to_section() to pgflags_section() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 02/62] mm: Add pgflags_nid() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 03/62] mm: Split slab into its own type Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-05 16:10   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-05 18:48     ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2021-10-12  7:25       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-12 14:13         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-12 14:17           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-13 18:08             ` Johannes Weiner
2021-10-13 18:31               ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-14  7:22                 ` David Hildenbrand
2021-10-14 12:44                   ` Johannes Weiner
2021-10-14 13:08                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 04/62] mm: Add account_slab() and unaccount_slab() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 05/62] mm: Convert virt_to_cache() to use struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 06/62] mm: Convert __ksize() to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 07/62] mm: Use struct slab in kmem_obj_info() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 08/62] mm: Convert check_heap_object() to use struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 09/62] mm/slub: Convert process_slab() to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 10/62] mm/slub: Convert detached_freelist to use " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:45 ` [PATCH 11/62] mm/slub: Convert kfree() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 12/62] mm/slub: Convert __slab_free() to take " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 13/62] mm/slub: Convert new_slab() to return " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 14/62] mm/slub: Convert early_kmem_cache_node_alloc() to use " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 15/62] mm/slub: Convert kmem_cache_cpu to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 16/62] mm/slub: Convert show_slab_objects() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 17/62] mm/slub: Convert validate_slab() to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 18/62] mm/slub: Convert count_partial() to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 19/62] mm/slub: Convert bootstrap() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 20/62] mm/slub: Convert __kmem_cache_do_shrink() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 21/62] mm/slub: Convert free_partial() to use " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 22/62] mm/slub: Convert list_slab_objects() to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 23/62] mm/slub: Convert slab_alloc_node() to use " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 24/62] mm/slub: Convert get_freelist() to take " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 25/62] mm/slub: Convert node_match() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 26/62] mm/slub: Convert slab flushing to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 27/62] mm/slub: Convert __unfreeze_partials to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 28/62] mm/slub: Convert deactivate_slab() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 29/62] mm/slub: Convert acquire_slab() to take a struct page Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 30/62] mm/slub: Convert partial slab management to struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 31/62] mm/slub: Convert slab freeing " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 32/62] mm/slub: Convert shuffle_freelist " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 33/62] mm/slub: Remove struct page argument to next_freelist_entry() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 34/62] mm/slub: Remove struct page argument from setup_object() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 35/62] mm/slub: Convert freelist_corrupted() to struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 36/62] mm/slub: Convert full slab management " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 37/62] mm/slub: Convert free_consistency_checks() to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 38/62] mm/slub: Convert alloc_debug_processing() to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 39/62] mm/slub: Convert check_object() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 40/62] mm/slub: Convert on_freelist() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 41/62] mm/slub: Convert check_slab() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 42/62] mm/slub: Convert check_valid_pointer() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 43/62] mm/slub: Convert object_err() to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 44/62] mm/slub: Convert print_trailer() to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 45/62] mm/slub: Convert slab_err() to take a " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 46/62] mm/slub: Convert print_page_info() to print_slab_info() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 47/62] mm/slub: Convert trace() to take a struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 48/62] mm/slub: Convert cmpxchg_double_slab to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 49/62] mm/slub: Convert get_map() and __fill_map() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 50/62] mm/slub: Convert slab_lock() and slab_unlock() " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 51/62] mm/slub: Convert setup_page_debug() to setup_slab_debug() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 52/62] mm/slub: Convert pfmemalloc_match() to take a struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 53/62] mm/slub: Remove pfmemalloc_match_unsafe() Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 54/62] mm: Convert slab to use struct slab Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 55/62] mm: Convert slob " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 56/62] mm: Convert slub " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 57/62] memcg: Convert object cgroups from struct page to " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-11 17:13   ` Johannes Weiner
2021-10-12  3:16     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 58/62] mm/kasan: Convert " Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 59/62] zsmalloc: Stop using slab fields in struct page Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 60/62] bootmem: Use page->index instead of page->freelist Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 61/62] iommu: Use put_pages_list Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-04 13:46 ` [PATCH 62/62] mm: Remove slab from struct page Matthew Wilcox (Oracle)
2021-10-11 20:07 ` [PATCH 00/62] Separate struct " Johannes Weiner
2021-10-12  3:30   ` Matthew Wilcox

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