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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Chen Huang <chenhuang5@huawei.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [BUG] arm64: an infinite loop in generic_perform_write()
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:39:48 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YNS1VN2okAHo3b+0@zeniv-ca.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7896a3c7-2e14-d0f4-dbb9-286b6f7181b5@arm.com>

On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 05:38:35PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 2021-06-24 17:27, Al Viro wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 02:22:27PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > 
> > > FWIW I think the only way to make the kernel behaviour any more robust here
> > > would be to make the whole uaccess API more expressive, such that rather
> > > than simply saying "I only got this far" it could actually differentiate
> > > between stopping due to a fault which may be recoverable and worth retrying,
> > > and one which definitely isn't.
> > 
> > ... and propagate that "more expressive" information through what, 3 or 4
> > levels in the call chain?
> > 
> >  From include/linux/uaccess.h:
> > 
> >   * If raw_copy_{to,from}_user(to, from, size) returns N, size - N bytes starting
> >   * at to must become equal to the bytes fetched from the corresponding area
> >   * starting at from.  All data past to + size - N must be left unmodified.
> >   *
> >   * If copying succeeds, the return value must be 0.  If some data cannot be
> >   * fetched, it is permitted to copy less than had been fetched; the only
> >   * hard requirement is that not storing anything at all (i.e. returning size)
> >   * should happen only when nothing could be copied.  In other words, you don't
> >   * have to squeeze as much as possible - it is allowed, but not necessary.
> > 
> > arm64 instances violate the aforementioned hard requirement.  Please, fix
> > it there; it's not hard.  All you need is an exception handler in .Ltiny15
> > that would fall back to (short) byte-by-byte copy if the faulting address
> > happened to be unaligned.  Or just do one-byte copy, not that it had been
> > considerably cheaper than a loop.  Will be cheaper than propagating that extra
> > information up the call chain, let alone paying for extra ->write_begin()
> > and ->write_end() for single byte in generic_perform_write().
> 
> And what do we do if we then continue to fault with an external abort
> because whatever it is that warranted being mapped as Device-type memory in
> the first place doesn't support byte accesses?

If it does not support byte access, it would've failed on fault-in.


  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-24 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-23  2:39 Chen Huang
2021-06-23  2:50 ` Al Viro
2021-06-23  3:24   ` Xiaoming Ni
2021-06-23  4:27     ` Al Viro
2021-06-23  9:32       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-23 11:51         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-23 13:04         ` Al Viro
2021-06-23 13:22 ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-24  3:10   ` Chen Huang
2021-06-24  3:24     ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-24  3:52       ` Chen Huang
2021-06-24  7:04       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-24 11:15         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-06-24 13:22           ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-24 16:27             ` Al Viro
2021-06-24 16:38               ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-24 16:39                 ` Al Viro [this message]
2021-06-24 17:24                   ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-24 18:55               ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-24 20:36                 ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-25 10:39                   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-28 16:22                     ` Robin Murphy
2021-06-29  8:30                       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-29 10:01                         ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-06 17:50                       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-07-06 19:15                         ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-07  9:55                           ` David Laight
2021-07-07 11:04                             ` Robin Murphy
2021-07-07 12:50                           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-24 15:09           ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-24 16:17             ` Al Viro

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