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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Yu Zhao <yuzhao@google.com>
Cc: Xing Zhengjun <zhengjun.xing@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@google.com>,
	wfg@mail.ustc.edu.cn, Rik van Riel <riel@surriel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm/vmscan.c: avoid possible long latency caused by too_many_isolated()
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 12:00:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YIqDv+dQL73KAqjm@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOUHufYXzYs__HSgXC2NfYJGHQzZEE6C+AZ78cvNbrZk_VyKxQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed 28-04-21 09:05:06, Yu Zhao wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2021 at 5:55 AM Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com> wrote:
[...]
> > > @@ -3334,8 +3285,17 @@ unsigned long try_to_free_pages(struct zonelist *zonelist, int order,
> > >       set_task_reclaim_state(current, &sc.reclaim_state);
> > >       trace_mm_vmscan_direct_reclaim_begin(order, sc.gfp_mask);
> > >
> > > +     nr_cpus = current_is_kswapd() ? 0 : num_online_cpus();
> > > +     while (nr_cpus && !atomic_add_unless(&pgdat->nr_reclaimers, 1, nr_cpus)) {
> > > +             if (schedule_timeout_killable(HZ / 10))
> > > +                     return SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX;
> > > +     }
> > > +
> > >       nr_reclaimed = do_try_to_free_pages(zonelist, &sc);
> > >
> > > +     if (nr_cpus)
> > > +             atomic_dec(&pgdat->nr_reclaimers);
> > > +
> > >       trace_mm_vmscan_direct_reclaim_end(nr_reclaimed);
> > >       set_task_reclaim_state(current, NULL);
> >
> > This will surely break any memcg direct reclaim.
> 
> Mind elaborating how it will "surely" break any memcg direct reclaim?

I was wrong here. I though this is done in a common path for all direct
reclaimers (likely mixed up try_to_free_pages with do_try_free_pages).
Sorry about the confusion.

Still, I do not think that the above heuristic will work properly.
Different reclaimers have a different reclaim target (e.g. lower zones
and/or numa node mask) and strength (e.g.  GFP_NOFS vs. GFP_KERNEL). A
simple count based throttling would be be prone to different sorts of
priority inversions. 
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-29 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-16  2:35 zhengjun.xing
2021-04-22  8:36 ` Xing Zhengjun
2021-04-22 10:23   ` Hillf Danton
2021-04-23  6:55     ` Xing Zhengjun
2021-04-30  5:33     ` Xing Zhengjun
2021-04-30  6:43       ` Hillf Danton
2021-05-10  8:03         ` Xing Zhengjun
2021-05-10  9:46           ` Hillf Danton
2021-04-22 17:13   ` Yu Zhao
2021-04-22 18:51     ` Shakeel Butt
2021-04-22 20:15       ` Yu Zhao
2021-04-22 20:17     ` Tim Chen
2021-04-22 20:30       ` Yu Zhao
2021-04-22 20:38         ` Tim Chen
2021-04-22 20:57           ` Yu Zhao
2021-04-22 21:02             ` Tim Chen
2021-04-23  6:57     ` Xing Zhengjun
2021-04-23 20:23       ` Yu Zhao
2021-04-25  0:48         ` Huang, Ying
2021-04-27 21:53           ` Yu Zhao
2021-04-30  5:57         ` Xing Zhengjun
2021-04-30  6:24           ` Yu Zhao
2021-04-28 11:55     ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-28 15:05       ` Yu Zhao
2021-04-29 10:00         ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2021-04-30  8:34           ` Yu Zhao
2021-04-30  9:17             ` Michal Hocko
2021-04-30 17:04               ` Yu Zhao

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